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    Iran breakthrough may be in sight-(heh,USSR-Iran come over,China quiet,Iran->nuke few months!)
    Scotsman ^ | Tue 17 Jan 2006 | FRASER NELSON POLITICAL EDITOR

    (NOTE: This is an older news article, but am reposting it for informational purposes)

    Iran breakthrough may be in sight FRASER NELSON POLITICAL EDITOR
    Key points • Russia moves towards US and European stance on Iran; China silent • Iranian ambassador welcomes offer to move nuclear programme to Russia • Atomic agency chief says Iran could acquire nuclear weapon this year
    Key quote "If they have the nuclear material and they have a parallel weaponisation programme along the way, they are really not very far - a few months - from a weapon" - Mohamed ElBaradei, head of the International Atomic Energy Agency


    Story in full A POTENTIAL breakthrough in the nuclear stand-off with Iran came last night when the Iranian ambassador in Moscow praised a proposal to move Tehran's uranium enrichment programme to Russia.


    As Britain, the United States, Russia, France and China met in London yesterday to discuss how to handle Iran's illegal nuclear development, the country was facing the growing certainty that it would be referred to the UN Security Council.


    While China remained resolutely silent on the possibility of sanctions - a move which it has the power to veto - Russia made significant moves towards the western stance on Iran's nuclear programme.


    Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, said last night that his position is "very close" to that of the United States and Britain. And it appeared that he could hold the key to a resolution when Iran's ambassador to Russia, Gholamreza Ansari, welcomed an offer to move the Iranian uranium enrichment programme to Russia.


    Such a move would mean Iran, which is developing a missile which could reach Israel, could not acquire enough material for a bomb.
    "As far as Russia's proposal is concerned, we consider it constructive and are carefully studying it. This is a good initiative to resolve the situation. We believe that Iran and Russia should find a way out of this jointly," said Mr Ansari.


    Mr Putin emerged from separate talks with Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, saying he was treating the situation with caution - but he in no way condoned Iran's decision to break the seals from its uranium enhancement plants a fortnight ago.


    "We need to move very carefully in this area. I personally do not allow myself a single careless announcement and do not allow the foreign ministry to make a single uncertain step," he said. "We must work on the Iranian problem very carefully, not allowing abrupt, erroneous steps."
    Mr Putin's words were welcomed by diplomats, who feared he was seeking to forge an alliance with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Iran's firebrand president elected five months ago.


    While Russia drew European Union condemnation for selling surface-to-air missiles to Iran, it has drawn the line at Mr Ahmadinejad resuming conversion of uranium at the Isfahan facility.


    Following the meeting of the five permanent members of the UN Security Council yesterday Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, said he would not "rush" into any action and expressed hope that Iran would stop its nuclear research after realising the strength of world opinion.


    "There are plenty of examples where a matter is referred to the Security Council and the Security Council takes action and that action is followed without sanction," he said at a conference in London.


    He said he was also encouraged by Iran's threat to withhold gas from world markets if such action was taken.


    "The fact that Iran is so concerned not to see it referred to the Security Council underlines the strength of the UN," he said.
    The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) - the UN's nuclear watchdog - was last night preparing a draft document saying it can make no more progress amid Iran's intransigence and asks the UN Security Council to take a decision.


    Mohamed ElBaradei, head of the IAEA, said in a magazine interview that Iran could acquire a nuclear weapon later this year.


    "If they have the nuclear material and they have a parallel weaponisation programme along the way, they are really not very far - a few months - from a weapon," he told Newsweek.
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    Iran exercise to refine combat doctrine tested in Lebanon

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    Friday, August 18, 2006

    NICOSIA — Iran is set to launch a new round of military exercises in an effort to test its new combat doctrine using weapons systems which were apparently tested in the recent war in Lebanon.

    Over the last two years, Iran has been testing a combat doctrine based on asymmetrical warfare. The doctrine was said to include the use of small and mobile land and sea forces to erode a much larger Western military.

    In April, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps held a week-long military exercise that tested a series of anti-tank, anti-aircraft and anti-ship missiles.

    Some of those weapons were believed to have been tested in the Hizbullah war with Israel, which ended on Aug. 14. Iran has acknowledged that it trained and equipped Hizbullah.

    The Iranian military said several large-scale exercises would begin on Aug. 19 in the southeast. The military said the exercises would consist of several stages and introduce an unspecified defense doctrine meant to counter a U.S. strike.

    "The maneuvers are aimed at introducing Iran's new defensive doctrine," military spokesman Gen. Mohammad Reza Ashtiani said on Thursday.

    Ashtiani said the exercises would begin near the Afghan border and move throughout Iran. He said no date has been set for the end of maneuvers. "It will continue in the whole of Iran, stage by stage, for an unspecified period," Ashtiani said in statements to the state-run Iranian media. "We have to be prepared against any threat, and we should be a role model for other countries."

    The military termed the exercise Operation Blow of Zolfaghar," a reference to the sword of Imam Ali, the inspiration for the Shi'ite religion. In the first stage, the exercise would consist of 12 infantry battalions backed by air and armored forces.

    The military announcement marked a resumption of large-scale exercises by the Islamic republic. "Our army is ready to defuse all plots against Islamic republic of Iran," Ashtiani said.

    "Human forces can decide the fate of a war," Ashtiani said. "We saw it in Lebanon."

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    In April, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps held a week-long military exercise that tested a series of anti-tank, anti-aircraft and anti-ship missiles.
    Yep...those "Sunburn" missles worry the hell out of me.
    I hope the US Navy has an ace up its sleeve that we're unaware of.


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    The Iranian doctrine is intact and verified thanks to the ineptness of the Omert clique in Israel and the unwarranted US State Department interference in Israeli self-defense issues.

    Phase II of this war is now underway.

    Remember this above everything else... while the game of chess has had many Grand Masters, many Russian's notable among them, the game itself was invented by Persians and they are the ultimate Grand Masters of such tactical prowess - we are seeing glimpses of the advanced tactical planning and preparations the Iranian regime has placed in execution within the past month.

    Iranian threats are not idle, nor are they tactical bluffs. To believe so is a fatal error.
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    Also remember that this chess game started over 20 plus years ago. One move that we have not heard much about is the regime change and how the revolution inside Iran is progressing. The bigger the revolution gets gives the west some advatnages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by falcon
    Also remember that this chess game started over 20 plus years ago. One move that we have not heard much about is the regime change and how the revolution inside Iran is progressing. The bigger the revolution gets gives the west some advatnages.
    I doubt an counter-revolution in the islamic Republic of Iran has a snowballs chance in hell of success.

    Iran has a destiny, right along side that of Russia, Turkey and several other the nations who will join the war against Israel.

    You are correct.. the current "game" was initiated on November 4, 1979, almost exactly 27 years ago, to be precise. However, my point is that the current leadership of Iran believes that it can orchestrate, indeed must precipitate events, force events to occur, which will result in a premature "end game" scenario - the islamic "armageddon".

    I believe Mahmoud Ahmadi-Nejad is demonically possessed. He really believes that "allah" guides his every move; that anything he does is "blessed", that he cannot possibly fail in anything he initiates because it is the will of "allah".

    Ahmadi-Nejad has believed this since he began to publicly relate the story that in his speech to the UN General Assembly he was bathed in "a glow of light from above" - a sign from "allah" that he is the chosen one to herald the return of the al-Mahdi.

    Mahmoud Ahmadi-Nejad, the President of the Islamic Republic of Iran, is absolutely delusional - and I am convinced he has nuclear weapons up his sleeve.

    How inherently dangerous, perilous to the entire world is this situation?

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    Iran flexes military muscle and says uranium enrichment goes on
    EuroNews (France) ^ | 21AUG06 | EuroNews

    Iran has fired tactical missiles during army wargames, as part of its preparations to face up to any outside threat.
    State television said surface-to-surface missiles with a range of up to 250 kilometres were tested and that surface-to-sea missiles were also being fired.


    It comes a day after the military exercises were launched. Tehran says they are taking place in over a dozen provinces and could last as long as five weeks.


    The Islamic Republic is troubled by the US military presence in neighbouring Iraq and Afghanistan. It has also expressed concern about any Israeli attempt to destroy its nuclear facilities.


    Iran said today it would not suspend uranium enrichment, ruling out the main demand in a package of incentives offered by six world powers.
    A foreign ministry spokesman said suspension was "not on our agenda."
    Iran says it will formally respond by Tuesday to the proposals, amid Western fears it is seeking to build atomic bombs.


    Tehran, which insists its nuclear aims are purely civilian, shows no sign of accepting the package.
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    Three Iranian factories 'mass-produce bombs to kill British in Iraq'
    telegraph ^ | 20/08/2006 | Toby Harnden in Washington



    Three factories in Iran are mass-producing the sophisticated roadside bombs used to kill British soldiers over the border in Iraq, it has been claimed.


    The lethal bombs are being made by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps at ordnance factory sites in Teheran, according to opponents of the country's theocratic regime.



    Designed to penetrate heavy armour, the devices being manufactured in Iran involve the use of "explosively formed projectiles" or EFPs, also known as shaped charges, often triggered by infra-red beams.
    The weapons can pierce the armour of British and American tanks and armoured personnel carriers and completely destroy armoured Land Rovers, which are used by the majority of British troops on operations in Iraq.


    The Sunday Telegraph revealed in April that Iranian-made devices employing several EFPs, directed at different angles, were being used in Iraq.


    And in June, this newspaper obtained the first picture of one of the Iraqi insurgent weapons - designed to fire an armour-piercing EFP - believed to have been responsible for the deaths of 17 British soldiers.


    British Government scientists have already established that the mines are precision-made weapons thought to have been turned on a lathe by craftsmen trained in the manufacture of munitions.


    Members of the Washington-based Iran Policy Committee have released the details about the three bomb factories gathered by the exile group, the National Council for Resistance in Iran (NCRI).


    Iranians working for the NCRI pinpointed the facilities at three industrial sections called Sattari, Sayad Shirazi and Shiroodi. The factories are in the Lavizan neighbourhood in northern Teheran which is controlled by the country's defence ministry. The Sattari Industry specialises in anti-tank mines and operates under the aegis of the IRGC's al-Quds or Jerusalem Force.

    British soldiers guard a convoy after a roadside bomb attack

    Alireza Jafarzadeh, a former spokesman for the NCRI who in 2002 revealed the existence of two Iranian nuclear facilities at Natanz and Arak, said the devices were smuggled to Iraq via Iran's Shalamcheh border region.
    "These sites are close to a military site, known as Lavizan 2, that is now being used for Iran's nuclear programme. It shows there is a high level of co-ordination by the Iranian regime, which wants to destabilise Iraq to make way for an Islamic Republic.


    "This is not a ragtag workshop in some remote area. These sites are within an area that is one of the most sanitised parts of Teheran which is controlled by the Iranian Defence Ministry."


    He added that NCRI sources reported the movement of EFP devices from Teheran into Iraq as recently as June and that supplies of the devices, which began last year, had been stepped up in recent months.
    The infra-red triggering mechanism for roadside bombs was perfected by Hezbollah, under Iranian tutelage, against Israeli forces in the 1990s. Mr Jafarzadeh said that in recent weeks Iran had facilitated the movement of cash from Shia groups in Iraq to Hezbollah.


    Brig James Dutton, then the commander of British forces in southern Iraq, revealed last November that EFPs had led to a marked increase in the lethality of attacks. He said the "technology certainly, and probably the equipment is coming through Iran". He added: "They come in various grades, these EFP improvised explosive devices, from those that could be made in a relatively simple workshop to those that would require a reasonably sophisticated factory."


    Last week, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, a former IRGC commander and the man believed by Western intelligence agencies to be in charge of Iranian operations in Iraq, was asked in an interview with CBS television why Iran would furnish roadside bombs to Iraqi insurgents.


    He ignored the question, instead responding: "We are saddened that the people of Iraq are being killed. I believe that the rulers of the US have to change their mentality. I ask you, sir, what is the American army doing inside Iraq? Why are the Americans killing Iraqis on a daily basis?"
    The factory disclosures come amid growing unease among soldiers in Iraq over what they believe is inadequate protection against terrorist booby traps.


    There are fears that soldiers' lives are being put at risk by senior officers insisting that troops must conduct patrols in armoured Land Rovers even though they provide little or no protection from such insurgent devices.
    Pressure continues to mount on the Ministry of Defence to introduce a new range of military vehicles that will protect troops from the terrorist bombs in Iraq.


    The last two soldiers to be killed by the device were Lieut Tom Mildinhall, 27, and L/Cpl Paul Farrelly, 28, both members of the 1st Queen's Dragoon Guards, who were killed on May 28 in a district north-west of Basra.
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    I had to share this with you guys. Seems like some entrepreneurial young soldier has started an outdoor photo booth for the bad guys. HAHAHA






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    Saw that one yesterday, thought it was good.
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    Iranian Troops Fire on Romanian Oil Rig

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    Tuesday, Aug. 22, 2006

    BUCHAREST, Romania -- Romania said Iranian troops opened fire from a warship and seized a Romanian oil rig Tuesday off the coast of Iran, holding its workers in an incident stemming from a commercial dispute.

    Sergiu Medar, a national security adviser to Romanian President Traian Basescu, said the seizure resulted from a commercial dispute Iran is treating "in an extreme way." He gave no details.

    Romania's Foreign Ministry called on Iranian authorities to immediately free Romanian crew members being held by the troops who took over the rig. The rig operator said seven Indian crew members had been released but 20 Romanians were still detained.

    "We are dealing with a commercial dispute that is being treated in an extreme way by the Iranian authorities," Medar told Realitatea TV. He added that Iranian authorities had not confirmed the incident. Iranian officials and state media offered no immediate statements.

    The company that operates the rig was in Iranian courts earlier this year over a dispute involving another one of its oil rigs, the Romanian financial weekly Saptamana Financiara has reported.

    The Romanian Foreign Ministry said it had summoned Iran's ambassador to provide information and that Romania's charge d'affaires in Iran, Mircea Has, was instructed to lodge an official protest and request a meeting with Iranian diplomats there. It said it planned to send a Romanian embassy team to the area where the rig was attacked.

    The Iranians fired into the air and then fired at the Orizont rig, said Radu Petrescu, a spokesman for rig operator GSP. A half-hour later, troops from the ship boarded and occupied the rig and the company lost contact with the 26 crew members, company officials said.

    GSP President Gabriel Comanescu said, "They fired on the rig. They destroyed one of the cranes. Four armed soldiers climbed aboard the rig."

    Has said the Romanian crew members were not injured and were being detained on the rig's helicopter pad.

    A Romanian lawmaker who leads the left-wing opposition accused Iran of taking a hostile action against Romania. He called on President Basescu to lead an emergency meeting of the country's supreme defense council.

    "The oil rig Orizont is Romanian territory," said Mircea Geoana, who heads the Social Democratic Party. Geoana served as foreign minister from 2000-2004.

    GSP, also known as the Oil Services Group, is a private Romanian company established in 2004 that operates six offshore rigs that it bought from Romania's largest oil company, Petrom.

    Two of its rigs are operating near the Iranian coast in the Persian Gulf as part of a deal signed between Petrom, GSP and Dubai-based Oriental Oil Co.

    The Orizont rig was built in 1987 and weighs 13,000 tons. It has been moored near Kish island in the Persian Gulf since October 2005, Romanian political consul in Tehran Yujin Chira told The Associated Press.

    Kish, in the southern end of the Persian Gulf, houses the offices of about 100 Iranian and foreign oil companies.

    www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/8/22/121049.shtml?s=lh

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    http://www.memri.org/bin/opener_latest.cgi?ID=SD126106


    Special Dispatch Series - No. 1261
    August 24, 2006No.1261
    Al-Borz News Service: President Ahmadinejad Expected to Announce Iran's 'Nuclear Birth'
    The Iranian news service Al-Borz, which is known to have access to sources in the Iranian government, predicted that on the first anniversary of Iranian President Ahmadinejad's government, in late August 2006, Ahmadinejad is expected to announce what the news service called Iran's "nuclear birth."


    In addition, an August 23, 2006 article about Iran's reply to the incentives proposal, that was posted on the Iranian Foreign Ministry-affiliated website www.tehrantimes.com , implied that Iran's nuclear technology had already reached the point of no return: "... If the West is seeking to impede Iran's nuclear industry, it should realize that Iran has passed this stage."(1)

    The following are excerpts from the Al-Borz report2)


    "It is expected that the first anniversary of the forming of the ninth government will be the date of the Ahmadinejad government's 'nuclear birth.'

    "... Together with [the celebration of] the anniversary of the forming of the ninth cabinet, the president of the country [Mahmoud Ahmadinejad] will hold his third press conference... where he will answer questions from journalists from Iran and from abroad.
    "In addition to detailing the activities of the government at the end of [its first] year, the head of the government [i.e. Ahmadinejad] will officially present Iran's positions on: economic and cultural matters, the nuclear dossier, the activities of nuclear research centers, and developments in the region."


    Endnotes:
    (1) Tehran Times (Iran), August 23, 2006.
    (2) Al-Borz, August 21, 2006.


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    Interesting they (Iran) has attacked an oil rig. Sounds like the shade of things to come.

    In other words, if they are grabbing oil rigs, and workers then are they planning on cutting off oil very shortly here?
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    Spoke off-the-record with a retired USAF general today. In the aftermath of the Lebanon debacle his opinion is that Israel has no choice but to launch a masive pre-emptive surgical strike on ALL Iranian nuke targets in a totally devastating blow. US combat CAP, refuelers and EW assets to provide cover inbound and outbound. Such a plan involves tacit Jordanian government overflight approval.


    Arab Sunni governments - except for Syria - have no love lost for the Iranian Shi'a regime. In chaos of post potential strike-scenario the hope is for a coup/insurrection to remove Hojjatieh mullah theocracy from power.

    I do not expect such an Israeli mission to occur.

    Syria, yes, given certain specifics of WMD attack upon Israel.

    Iran , no, I seriously doubt any Israeli pre-emptive action wil be taken.

    I expect an Iranian pre-emptive declaration of nuclear weapons capability on 24, 25 or 27 August 2006.

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    Sean

    Would you please elobrate on the dates a bit for us?
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    Great photo, Joey!

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    The Iranian Threat

    Aug. 24, 2006 0:30 | Updated Aug. 24, 2006 14:29
    Israel may 'go it alone' against Iran
    By HERB KEINON



    Israel is carefully watching the world's reaction to Iran's continued refusal to suspend uranium enrichment, with some high-level officials arguing it is now clear that when it comes to stopping Iran, Israel "may have to go it alone," The Jerusalem Post has learned.

    One senior source said on Tuesday that Iran "flipped the world the bird" by not responding positively to the Western incentive plan to stop uranium enrichment. He expressed frustration that the Russians and Chinese were already saying that Iran's offer of a "new formula" and willingness to enter "serious negotiations" was an opening to keep on talking.

    "The Iranians know the world will do nothing," he said. "This is similar to the world's attempts to appease Hitler in the 1930s - they are trying to feed the beast."

    He said there was a need to understand that "when push comes to shove," Israel would have to be prepared to "slow down" the Iranian nuclear threat by itself.
    Having said this, he did not rule out the possibility of US military action, but said that if this were to take place, it would probably not occur until the spring or summer of 2008, a few months before President George W. Bush leaves the international stage. The US presidential elections, which Bush cannot contest because of term limits, are in November 2008.

    Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni, in a meeting in Paris with French Foreign Minister Phillippe Douste-Blazy Wednesday, said Iran "poses a global threat" and needed to be dealt with by the whole international community.

    "The first thing they need to do is stop the enrichment of uranium," Livni said. "Everyday that passes brings the Iranians closer to building a nuclear bomb. The world can't afford a nuclear Iran." She said the Iranian reply to the Western incentives was just an attempt to "gain time."

    Government officials said Israel's role at this time is to warn the world of the dangers of an Iranian nuclear potential. Some government officials are sending the message to their counterparts abroad that the firm implementation of UN Security Council Resolution 1701 on Lebanon will send a strong message to Iran - which is testing the world's resolve - that it is serious about implementing Security Council resolutions.

    Meanwhile, the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) reported Wednesday that the Iranian news service Al-Borz, which it said is known to have access to sources in the Iranian government, predicted that President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would announce what the news service called Iran's "nuclear birth" on the first anniversary of his government later this month.

    In addition, an article Tuesday on the Teheran Times Web site, considered to be affiliated with the Foreign Ministry, implied that Iran's nuclear technology had already reached the point of no return. "If the West is seeking to impede Iran's nuclear industry, it should realize that Iran has passed this stage," the report read.

    Diplomats from Europe, the US, Russia and China were poring over details of Iran's counterproposal to the Western nuclear incentives package Wednesday. Initial comments from Russia and China made clear Washington is likely to face difficulty getting at least those nations to agree to any tough sanctions against Iran.
    In Paris, however, Douste-Blazy made clear that his government was sticking by the UN demand for Iran to halt enrichment by the end of this month as a precondition to further talks. Israeli officials said France has consistently advocated a firm position with Iran regarding the nuclear issue.


    Israel has already stated that they failed in the war with Hisbullah....They would need the help of the U.S. to defeat Iran. If they (Iran) came out still "flipping the bird" then what......

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    U.S. may bypass U.N. on Iran: LA Times

    Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:46am ET

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Bush administration has indicated it is prepared to form an independent coalition to freeze Iranian assets and restrict trade if the U.N. Security Council fails to penalize Tehran for its nuclear enrichment program, The Los Angeles Times reported on Saturday.
    A Security Council resolution gives Iran until August 31 to stop uranium enrichment, which could provide fuel to produce electricity or possibly atomic weapons, or face penalties.
    U.S. Ambassador John Bolton said in an interview late this week that the United States planned to introduce a resolution imposing penalties such as a travel ban and asset freeze for key Iranian leaders soon after the August 31 deadline, the Times reported.
    It said Bolton seemed optimistic that Security Council members China and Russia, which have been reluctant to impose sanctions, would agree to it once they saw the text. "Everybody's been on board," the Times quoted him as saying.


    But on Friday Russia rejected for now efforts to impose sanctions after Tehran agreed to continue talks, but refused to halt enrichment.
    In case Russia and China do not accept the resolution, Washington is working a parallel diplomatic track outside the United Nations, Bolton said.
    Analysts say the strategy reflects not only long-standing U.S. frustration with the Security Council's inaction on Iran, but also the current weakness of Washington's position because of its controversial role in a series of conflicts in the Middle East, most recently in Lebanon, the Times said.
    Under U.S. terrorism laws, Washington could ramp up its own sanctions, including financial constraints on Tehran and interception of missile and nuclear materials en route to Iran, Bolton said, and the United States is encouraging other countries to follow suit.
    "You don't need Security Council authority to impose sanctions, just as we have," he said. The United States has had broad restrictions on almost all trade with Iran since 1987.
    The Times said Bolton and U.S. Treasury officials refused to provide details on which countries might be interested in joining in sanctions, citing the "sensitivity" of the talks.

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    Nuclear Iran

    Posted by Sean Osborne on 2006/8/26 14:54:06 ()

    The news today about the official opening of the Iranian heavy-water nuclear production plant near Arak in central Iran is not really new news at all. A host of western governments and international scientific organizations have made this information known - as has the Iranian government itself- since at least 1998.

    The revealed plans, design specifications and outright deceptions of the plants operating parameters made Iranian intentions even more unambiguous beginning in 2002 and continuing through 2003 and 2004. Now, in the middle of the third quarter of 2006, what has been suspected all along concerning the Iranian nuclear weapons program is a virtual fact.

    And the world did nothing.

    To place the bottom line of this Iranian capability in common terminology for all to understand -- all by itself the 40 megawatt heavy water nuclear production plant near Arak is capable of an average yearly production of 10.75 kilograms of weapons grade plutonium. A theoretical upper prodction limit of this plant is on the order of 12.5 kilograms per year.

    What this means to all of us is that Iran can produce enough plutonium for at least 2 to 3 weapons per year. Factor in other nuclear facilities and the capability increases.

    Given the rhetoric and belligerence of the current Iranian regime, it is unconscionable that the world did nothing substantial to prevent this. In contrast, the west did everything in its power to keep Hitler from getting "the bomb".

    This time the world did nothing and the Ayatollah can make his bombs. This is a very sad day for global civilization.
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    Hiya Sean,

    And the world did nothing.
    And I know WHY they did nothing, AS USUAL.
    They wanted the United States to once again take the lead and once again do all the heavy lifting, AS USUAL.
    They wanted us in the United States to spill OUR blood and spend OUR treasure, while they sat back, fat and dumb and happy and safe.
    Then THEY could sit back as the weasels they are, and do what they do best...CRITICIZE THE UNITED STATES.

    They could show their "clean" hands to the muslim world and say..."hey look, it wasn't us". WE'RE your pals!
    WE hate the Americans too! It was that cowboy Bush and the arrogant, uncultured, hateful Americans again."

    And, AS USUAL, that asshole Kohfi Anan could sit in his seat near the East River and pontificate about how we in the United States should have waited and built a coalition. (sound familiar?)
    How we acted unilaterally and how WE in the United States are the REAL threat to world peace. (wow, sounds like a Democtaric platform speech).

    Well I for one am sick of those ungrateful, cowardly, backstabbing bastards!
    the United Nations did NOTHING in this whole affair. Nothing that is, except to embolden Iran, radical islam and the enemies of freedom and the United States.

    This is a very sad day for global civilization.
    I couldn't agree with ya more, pal.
    This is a day that will come back to haunt us.



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