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    April 12, 2012 8:01 AM




    George Zimmerman's lawyer says client "stressed"; Will seek release on bond


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    (CBS News) The attorney for George Zimmerman said he'll seek his client's release on bond Thursday after he was arrested and charged with second-degree murder in the shooting death of unarmed teen Trayvon Martin, adding the neighborhood watch captain is frustrated, tired and stressed.
    Appearing on "CBS This Morning" Thursday, defense lawyer Mark O'Mara wouldn't address specific facts of the case, saying that he hadn't yet seen all the information that special prosecutor Angela Corey used in making the decision to charge Zimmerman Wednesday.
    But he said the issue of self-defense, which Zimmerman has claimed in the deadly Feb. 26 encounter with the 17-year-old Martin, would likely be one facet of the defense.
    Zimmerman prosecution to be uphill battle
    Trayvon Martin's parents "at ease" after arrest
    Zimmerman booked on 2nd-degree murder charge
    Under Florida's "stand your ground" law, the use of deadly force is permissible if an individual feels threatened.
    O'Mara just recently took over Zimmerman's defense after his two former attorneys - Hal Uhrig and Craig Sonner - withdrew from the case after revealing Zimmerman contacted Corey, the prosecutor, and Fox News host Sean Hannity without their consent and that they had lost contact with him.
    O'Mara met with Zimmerman for the first time Wednesday night after he was taken into custody by police. Zimmerman is due in court Thursday afternoon, where he is expected to plead not guilty to the charge. O'Mara also said he would seek a bond motion during the appearance, saying his client posed no flight risk and his release was important for the purpose of building the defense case.
    Timeline of events in Trayvon Martin case
    Fla. special prosecutor seen as "tenacious"
    Special Section: Trayvon Martin Shooting
    The two men didn't discuss the events leading up the shooting, O'Mara said, instead focusing on Zimmerman's current state of mind.
    "He's frustrated. He's tired. He's stressed. So, we just need to sort of take it one day at a time," O'Mara said.
    Watch Mark O'Mara's full interview in the video player above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malsua View Post
    So Zimmerman has been charged with murder 2.

    I think that's perfect. I think it's a strategy by the prosecutor.

    They know Zimmerman is not guilty under stand your ground but the blacks will riot if Zimmerman is not charged.

    If they had charged him with manslaughter, they would have wanted to put him in jail because that's a charge they could get a conviction for.

    With man 2, they have to prove he maliciously pulled the trigger and that he intentionally sought to kill, it's a burden of proof that doesn't exist in this case.

    As far as the prosecutor's office goes, this is their only route out of the woods. Zimmerman will go to trial and he will go free. The prosecution can say repeatedly "We're following the law" and they still get to let an innocent man go free. It's all about saving face and preventing a bunch of property damage by blacks.
    That was was my thinking as well but I think there's one fly in that ointment.

    If/when Zimmerman is acquitted then riots will ensue. They are really only postponing the inevitable, and possibly going to make it worse, if this is their plan. See the 1992 L.A. Riots.

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    Some folks on TV FNC this morning stated they were "over charging" him.

    Should have gone with manslaughter... but even that might have been wrong.

    They STILL have to PROVE he didn't something wrong and given the witnesses, I don't think they can do that.
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    "All we've asked for is an arrest, nothing more, nothing less... and we got it. Thank Jesus...."
    "All we're asking for is a conviction" ...and we won't riot.
    "All we're asking for is a long jail sentence" ...and we won't riot.
    "All we're asking for is a needle in his arm" ...and we won't riot.

    It's called moving the goal posts once the goal has been met.
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    yeah, lol, I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malsua View Post
    So Zimmerman has been charged with murder 2.

    I think that's perfect. I think it's a strategy by the prosecutor.

    They know Zimmerman is not guilty under stand your ground but the blacks will riot if Zimmerman is not charged.

    As far as the prosecutor's office goes, this is their only route out of the woods. Zimmerman will go to trial and he will go free. The prosecution can say repeatedly "We're following the law" and they still get to let an innocent man go free. It's all about saving face and preventing a bunch of property damage by blacks.
    Exactly!

    Never let a crisis go to waist, even if it has to be manufactured.

    This is to proliferate racism in a complex strategy to divide America before an election.

    1. It takes Obama's record off the headlines
    2. It gets minorities suited and booted for this election
    3. Demonizes Conservatives, Tea Party and NRA
    4. Those who try to confront Obama's record makes them look racist
    5. Continue stoking the fires of class warfare

    What about Hispanics?

    He's quietly courting his Comrades in La Raza to organize the Hispanic vote.

    The Left will be out in force organizing and committing voter fraud in every close race to elect or keep Democrats in power.

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    This guy, Zimmerman will not be found guilty of 2nd Degree murder if ANY of the data we've gotten so far is accurate.

    Obama will stay in the headlines, but this is something being used by the left - an opportunity to remove the spotlight directly from Obama's record.

    The fact that there have been a dozen murders since this happened that were black-on-black and black-on-white violence and NONE have made the news is apparent that the left isn't interested in being honest or fair about anything.
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    Mike Tyson on George Zimmerman: ‘It’s a disgrace he hasn’t been shot yet’

    By Dylan Stableford | The Lookout20 hrs ago


    Tyson (Isaac Brekken/AP)


    Mike Tyson thinks that George Zimmerman deserves violent retribution for the shooting of Trayvon Martin.

    In an interview with Yahoo News about his upcoming one-man show in Las Vegas, the former heavyweight champion sounded off on the polarizing case:

    "My personal feeling is that, as a young kid that was beat on by a bully, that was pretty much singled out—the guy [Zimmerman] stalked him, didn't follow instructions from a superior officer, when they said, 'Stop following the kid.' That tells you everything right there. But my all-around perspective, I wasn't there, I don't know what happened. But it's just so widespread and overt what happened. Even though this is the best country in the world, certain laws in this country are a disgrace to a nation of savages. It's a majority versus a minority. That's the way God planned it.

    He didn't want to do something about it, He wanted us to do something about it. And if we don't, it's gonna stay this way. We have to continue tweeting, we have to continue marching, we have to continue fighting for Trayvon Martin. If that's not the case, he was killed in vain, and we're just waiting for it to happen to our children. He'll have gotten away with impunity. It's a disgrace that man hasn't been dragged out of his house and tied to a car and taken away. That's the only kind of retribution that people like that understand. It's a disgrace that man hasn't been shot yet. Forget about him being arrested--the fact that he hasn't been shot yet is a disgrace. That's how I feel personally about it."

    In 1992, Tyson was convicted of raping Desiree Washington, a beauty pageant contestant, and served three years in prison.

    Read the full interview here.

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    Should George Zimmerman Be Convicted of Second-Degree Murder?



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    1. 35.78% Yes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterle Matteo View Post
    AAAAAAHHHHRRGH!!!

    What an impressive image!

    (I mean Tyson)

    I am really scared...


    So... have you served time in prison then Peterle? Or perhaps a mental institution?

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    ‘We Must Repeal the Stand Your Ground Law’: Jesse Jackson Tips His Hand After Zimmerman Arrest

    • Posted on April 12, 2012 at 6:00pm by Mytheos Holt
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    George Zimmerman hasn‘t even been in jail for a single day and hasn’t been found guilty of anything yet (in fact, his trial hasn’t even started), yet Jesse Jackson is already trying to use Zimmerman’s shooting of Florida teen Trayvon Martin to push a fondly cherished wish of left-of-center Floridians.

    That is, he’s trying to use the case as a pretext to repeal the “Stand Your Ground” law, which some observers have blamed for Martin‘s death at Zimmerman’s hands.

    Laura Flanders of the Nation has video and the full quote in a short blog post:
    George Zimmerman was behind bars Wednesday night, forty-five days and countless rallies after he went free after shooting unarmed high school junior Trayvon Martin in a Sanford, Florida, gated community. Zimmerman now faces the possibility of life in prison, but the Reverend Jesse Jackson, who has led some of those rallies, says that the mobilizing shouldn’t end.

    “When Rosa Parks was arrested [for refusing to go to the back of the bus], if we had focused on the bus driver and not on the states’ rights law, we would have missed the point…. We must not just settle for Zimmerman, we must repeal the Stand Your Ground law.”

    As luck would have it, Reverend Jackson and I were both at Ohio University as the news from Florida came in. Here’s what he had to say.



    The internal logic of Jackson’s statement, comparing the case of the Montgomery Bus Boycott to the case of Trayvon Martin, might not be fully consistent with either. The bus boycott was enacted in order to protest a specifically racist policy, whereas the Stand Your Ground law applies with equal force to whites and blacks, and has no alleged racial motivation behind it. Moreover, Rosa Parks did not die as a result of the bus policy, nor were the bus company employees ever charged with a crime. Either way, it’s not clear that the shooting of Trayvon Martin is indicative in any way of a wider trend of racially motivated violence. In fact, it appears to be an isolated incident, which would make it just the opposite.

    Is Reverend Jackson distracting from his own cause?

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    Stand Your Ground law applies with equal force to whites and blacks, and has no alleged racial motivation behind it.
    Blacks are 12% of the population and commit 50% of the murders.

    It stands to reasons that stand your ground will encourage non-blacks to resist black murderers/robbers/rapists/thugs and therefore stand your ground will kill more blacks than any other race.
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    Judge in George Zimmerman case discloses tie to CNN legal analyst

    By Liz Goodwin | The Lookout – 4 hrs agoA Florida judge in the George Zimmerman case said in a surprise hearing on Friday that her husband has ties to a CNN legal analyst and commentator.

    The Orlando Sentinel reports that Judge Jessica Recksiedler disclosed that her husband works for the law firm of Mark NeJame, a prominent Orlando attorney, in the five-minute hearing Friday afternoon. NeJame has been hired to sound off on the Zimmerman case for CNN. It's unclear if either attorney will ask Recksiedler to step aside because of the connection.

    NeJame said on CNN Friday that Recksiedler wants to avoid "the appearance of impropriety" with this disclosure. NeJame said he referred Zimmerman to his current lawyer.

    Zimmerman has spent two nights in jail on charges of second-degree murder, and will ask for bond in a hearing on April 20. He's charged with second-degree murder in the Feb. 26 shooting of unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin. Zimmerman says he shot Martin in self-defense.


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    An earlier version of this article incorrectly stated the charges against Zimmerman.

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    I wonder if we will be looking at another Rodney King fiasco?
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    I wonder if we will be looking at another Rodney King fiasco?
    It depends on whether or not Obama thinks riots will help his re-election.

    If riots and police overreach help get him over the top, expect it to be very nasty.
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    Blacks are 12% of the population and commit 50% of the murders.

    It stands to reasons that stand your ground will encourage non-blacks to resist black murderers/robbers/rapists/thugs and therefore stand your ground will kill more blacks than any other race.

    Look any law that can be used against blacks like this is obviously racist - because they want to be able to get away with murder.

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    Media Censored SEVEN hate crime mob attacks in Grand Rapids (in ONE weekend)

    http://www.examiner.com/charleston-c...s-grand-rapids

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    (All 7 attacks were black mobs attacking white people. )

    "You didn't hear about this is the media, but on the weekend of March 24th and March 25th at least seven white people were brutally beaten by mobs of blacks in Grand Rapids, MI. Five of the victims filed police reports. At least two other victims exist, and there are probably others. The local media has refused to report the cruel attacks and the authorities are resisting any serious charges.

    I talked with one of the victims, 37 year old Jacob Palasek. He is a full time student and does computer work part time. He was attacked by a wolf pack of thugs on the corner of Sixth Street and Broadway in Grand Rapids, Michigan just after midnight on March 25th. The location is a mix of stores, offices, and residential neighborhoods. Jacob lives near where he was attacked.

    As he was walking to his apartment, he saw three black males loitering. One was on a bicycle. The suspect on the bicycle rode up beside him. Suddenly the thug smashed him in the side of the head with a chain. He was hit two or three more times in the head with the chain before he broke loose and ran to the nearest home. He knocked on the door, hoping the owner would call the police.

    All three of the black males then attacked him on the porch. They yelled “this is what you deserve you white piece of shit.” Jacob was hit in the head with the large chain more times. Jacob broke free again and hid behind a dumpster. The attackers initially chased him, but broke their pursuit and walked away. There were some cars driving by and the thugs may have thought a driver was calling 911.

    All seven known victims were attacked within about six blocks of where Jacob was attacked. The victims were in their 30s, 40s, and 50s. Some of the victims were attacked during the day in broad daylight.

    Jacob believes he could have died if he was hit with the chain more times. He still has bad headaches and has not been able to work since the attack. Jacob doesn't have insurance and can't afford the correct medical treatment. His landlord is now threatening to evict him from his apartment. Since he was not able to work, he has missed a rent payment. A victim's relief fund is planning to give him a small amount of money. However, police did not even tell him the fund existed so he applied very late. He is still waiting on the help.

    The police listed aggravated assault with a weapon and ethnic intimidation, Michigan's state hate crimes law, on the police report. Jacob identified two of the perpetrators. However, police have told Jacob that the thugs will get off easy because they are only 17. Police told him that the thugs will not serve time in prison for the brutal hate crimes.

    Police said that the suspects will not be tried as adults. They will only face juvenile boot camp instead of prison. A detective told Jacob that they believe all the attacks were racially motivated. The detective also told Jacob that he believed the Trayvon Martin media frenzy is what prompted the attacks. Jacob also believed that the thugs were seeking revenge for Trayvon Martin before the detective confirmed this belief.

    To add insult to injury, not a single media outlet in all of Grand Rapids reported the brutal hate crimes. Jacob has contacted the local paper and his local news affiliates repeatedly. None will report the story. He has also contacted numerous politicians, none of whom has helped.

    He even wrote to US Rep. John Conyers. Conyers is a black US rep from Detroit who was a co-sponsor of the Federal Hate Crimes Act. The exact stated purpose of the Federal hate crimes act was to help people like the victims in Grand Rapids. When someone is a victim of a violent racially motivated attack and the local authorities won't pursue serious penalties, the DOJ is supposed to pick up the slack and apply Federal hate crimes charges.

    Eric Holder, who heads the DOJ, says he is investigating ways to charge George Zimmerman with a Federal crime. Think Eric Holder will concern himself with the white victims of horrific hate crime mob attacks in Grand Rapids?

    For the past two years black on white racially motivated mob attacks have been occurring in the United States weekly. Local media outlets typically only have little blurbs about them and censor all mention of race. Numerous major media outlets now openly admit to having a policy of censoring black crime, so as not to “stigmatize” black people. Political correctness supersedes public safety. The response from the authorities has been one of constant downplaying. None of the perpetrators are ever charged with a hate crime.

    Now it has reached a point where the media in some markets are refusing to even report black on white hate crimes. How many other horrific black on white hate crime mob attacks are going on that we have never heard about?"

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    They were already backpedaling after Mr Tingles(Chris Matthews) was forced to watch a video that showed Zimmerman's head took a beating.

    Now it's a redirect to gun control, since race is DOA.
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    Race was always DOA... however... there are still people talking about it today. I just overheard a conversation about it. Wasn't pretty what they were saying. I won't repeat here, but suffice it to say they expect BIG things to come out of this. BIG....
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