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    No worries. These people almost always end up the same way. With a hole in them on some street somewhere. They self select out of society.
    That they do. The "Black on Black" crime is WAY worse than the "White on Black" crime. And even worse, is "Black on White" crime.

    While the kid might have had a bright future as a football player (no idea) and he might NOT have been doing a damned thing wrong, what possessed him to attack Zimmerman like that instead of disappearing into the dark like he was trying to do?

    Zimmerman is still "innocent" until proved guilty.
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    What did we see coming?

    That there are "racial problems"?

    I never saw them coming from ME.

    That's my point. I know a lot of people, all races. And of all of them, NONE of them but the blacks I know have any sort of "chip" on their shoulders.

    They are constantly telling how the white man has them down and so forth.

    it's sad.
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    If we're so oppressing black people, how is it they hold all the government jobs?
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    Obama is there. hell, remember that woman saying she wouldn't ever have to worry about mortgage payments or putting gas in her car again?
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    New Black Panther Party | March 27, 2012
    New Black Panther leader Malik Shabazz threatens to burn Detroit down



    Angry over steps being taken due to a financial emergency in Detroit, New Black Panther Party leader Malik Shabazz declared he would burn the city down.

    "This is white on black crime," he said during public comment at the two hour meeting held Monday afternoon.

    "This is white supremacy. Before you can take over our city, we will burn it down," he added.

    According to the Detroit Free Press, Shabazz was one of about 100 angry and defiant Detroiters who attended the meeting.
    The Detroit Free Press reported:
    Detroit's financial review team this afternoon declared that the city is under a financial emergency and no consent agreement between the city and state has been adopted, a move that forces Gov. Rick Snyder to appoint an emergency manager within the next 10 days under state law.

    State officials, however, are hopeful that an agreement can be reached before an emergency manager is named.
    "In that 10-day window, if a consent agreement can be adopted, that's an alternative for the governor and that's what he prefers to see," said state Treasurer Andy Dillon.

    Dillon said the Mayor, the City Council and the Governor would have to sign off on the agreement within the next ten days.

    But some locals see the move as a "hostile takeover of a predominately black city," the Free Press added.

    Local public sector unions that represent city employees are unhappy with the move as well.

    The Free Press noted:
    "I negotiated with 30 unions to get that agreement," said Ed McNeil, special assistant to President Al Garrett, AFSCME Council 25, who co-chaired the coalition of unions' negotiating team. "It's a shame. We are fighting for and sacrificing for this city to bring Detroit back together."
    A post at Twitchy.com highlights some of the messages sparked by Shabazz's threat:

    "For Detroit that probably qualifies as Urban Renewal," wrote one person.
    "What? Theres nothing left to burn," wrote another.

    "As an outsider half the city already is #NeedHelp," commented "NaturalEmerald."

    According to the Free Press, security struggled to maintain order throughout the meeting as attendees chanted, "No takeover!"

    Last December, talk show host Rush Limbaugh offered his advice for fixing Detroit: "Get rid of every liberal in government."

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    ‘I Don’t Obey the White Man’s Law:’ New Black Panther Party Member Clashes With Anderson Cooper




    During an odd and fiery interview on CNN Monday night, Anderson Cooper tussled with Mikhail Muhammad of The New Black Panther Party over the group’s reaction to the death of Florida Teen Trayvon Martin. The New Black Panther Party has offered a reward for the capture of Martin’s shooter George Zimmerman, and cited “street people law” during the interview Monday night as justification for charging murder against George Zimmerman while calling for a citizen’s arrest.

    “He committed murder, he committed a hate crime,” Muhammad told Cooper of Zimmerman, explaining, “we decided to take it upon ourselves and coalition with other groups, with other black people who have had enough.”

    Anderson continued to remind Muhammad that Martin’s father has explicitly rejected the “eye for an eye” rhetoric that some members of The New Black Panther Party have used, but the spokesman appeared to ignore the father’s request.

    “We are military, we are here to support Trayvon’s family,” Muhammad argued, adding that the government wasn’t really there for Trayvon Martin and that “they have killed millions of black men and women so not only are we calling for justice for Trayvon.”

    “You tell our justice department and Eric Holder and our President Obama to get off up their ass and do the work and the rest is done!” Muhammad went on to say. When pressed by Cooper on the legality, he responded that he could make a citizen’s arrest of Zimmerman, who has not yet been charged for anything, because the New Black Panther Party member doesn’t “obey the white man’s law,” but rather “street people law.”

    He then went on to accuse Cooper of having a lack of concern for Martin’s family, which prompted a quick retort from Cooper: “Well sir, actually, you have no idea what’s in my mind, or my heart, or what I’ve been reporting on….. What I‘m wandering is aren’t you just taking advantage of a situation to try and get in front of cameras and get your name out, for your group, which is tiny?”

    Watch Muhammad’s complete interview on Anderson Cooper 360 via Mediaite:


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    Media MSNBC Host Outraged After George Zimmerman’s Lawyer Allegedly Walks Out of Interview

    Posted on March 27, 2012 at 7:55am by Jonathon M. Seidl

    If you ever want to get under MSNBC Host Lawrence O‘Donnell’s skin, just cancel an interview last minute and walk out. That’s allegedly what Craig Sonner, the Lawyer for Trayvon Martin shooter George Zimmerman, did Monday night. And O‘Donnell wasn’t happy about it.



    According to O’Donnell, Sonner was scheduled to be on the show, but just minutes before he was set to be on, he walked out of the studio in Orlando. O’Donnell laced into him for it:
    Craig Sonner has been the first guest in the history of this particular show, to get scared, to be terrified, so terrified of coming on this show that he has literally run away. He’s in our car right now, taking him home from our studio, afraid to face the questioning he would face on this show. Watch out for wherever Craig Sonner shows up next on television, because wherever he shows up next on television has an obligation to put him through serious questioning about what he’s doing and what he knows, and the contradictions in the things he’s already said on television.
    In fact, HuffPo says, O’Donnell even later switched to an empty shot of the interview chair and started questioning it:

    • “Who is paying you, Mr. Lawyer?”
    • “Does George Zimmerman have a job?”
    • “Did you represent him when he was arrested for assault on a police officer in 2005?”
    • “Your client was not injured enough to go to the hospital that night. You say he sought some sort of medical treatment the next day. Do you have those medical records that you can show us?”



    We have yet to hear from Sonner about his side of the story. You can hear O‘Donnell’s version below:


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    Rush: Why are Obama and Holder silent over New Black Panther’s bounty to capture Zimmerman?

    Posted by The Right Scoop on March 27th, 2012 in Politics | 43 Comments

    Rush says that despite the New Black Panthers putting a ‘bounty’ on George Zimmerman, a private citizen, over the Trayvon Martin shooting last month, the Obama administration sits quietly as the situation escalates. Nothing is being said to calm things down from Obama Holder even though the New Black Panthers claim to have amassed a 40 person vigilante group to capture Zimmerman.

    Rush says he shouldn’t be surprised as he’s predicted this kind of chaos, but still he finds it a bit stunning:

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    New Black Panthers Put Out Bounty for Zimmerman -- and the President is Silent


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    What exactly are they going to burn down?



    I'd be more impressed if he claimed Baltimore or Chicago.

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    Yeah, not much left in Detroit.... I was there last May.

    My old home town pretty much doesn't exist any more.

    It's ALL ghetto. It's all burned down. I do NOT Understand why my sister still LIVES in that fucking hell hole.
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    Detriot is a great picture of what hand outs, nany state, and/or socialism (what ever you want to call it) will do to a city, state, or a nation.
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    Detroit fell to Democracy. Believe me. I lived there for a few years of my life.

    "Democrats" in office caused ALL that happened to that state, and I'll tell you something, Coleman Young was one of the WORST mayors in all history:

    Young's 1973 Mayoral campaign addressed the role of the violence inflicted upon a predominantly black city by a disproportionately white police department[citation needed]. Young pledged the elimination of one particularly troubled police unit, STRESS (Stop the Robberies and Enjoy Safe Streets.) This one police unit had been connected to the death of eight black people in its first four months of operation and 18 people in its first 14 months. The unit's operations were suspended in 1972 by order of the mayor. In November 1973, Young narrowly defeated former Police Commissioner John F. Nichols (whom the previous mayor had to dismiss as Police Commissioner when Nichols refused to resign while campaigning for mayor. Nichols would later be elected as Oakland County Sheriff) to become Detroit's first black mayor. Young promptly disbanded the STRESS unit, integrated the police department and increased patrols in high crime neighborhoods utilizing a community policing approach.[2] Young's effect on integrating the Detroit Police Department was successful with the percentage of black police officers rising from 19% in the early 1970s[3] to 63% by 2000.[4] Young, however, was not able to cure all issues related to crime and police, and the Detroit Police Department was viewed by some as having a pattern of an alleged reckless use of deadly force.[5]


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    March 28, 2012 8:39 AM


    Trayvon Martin killing investigation starts over

    • By Mark Strassmann




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    (CBS News) - The investigation into the killing of Trayvon Martin is essentially starting from scratch, with the new special prosecutor and a team of investigators quietly re-interviewing witnesses and examining evidence related to the unarmed teen's shooting death.

    The 17-year-old Martin has been dead for a month, and George Zimmerman, his admitted killer, remains free after telling authorities he was forced to shoot Martin in self-defense.


    What happened right after Trayvon Martin's shooting?


    The Sanford Police Department's lead investigator initially pursued manslaughter charges against Zimmerman, but was told by the state attorney that there wasn't enough evidence.


    Here's what CBS News has pieced together from sources connected to the investigation.


    On February 26th, the night Martin was killed, police questioned Zimmerman for five hours at police headquarters. The police report noted Zimmerman was "bleeding from the nose and the back of the head."


    Police did not administer a drug and alcohol test or an immediate background check on Zimmerman, although they did both on Martin.


    The next day, detectives re-enacted the shooting with Zimmerman at the scene. They also discovered Zimmerman had two prior arrests: one for assaulting a cop, the other for domestic abuse.


    For the next two weeks, lead investigator Chris Serino pursued a manslaughter charge against Zimmerman.


    Police interviewed at least six witnesses. But none of them saw how the confrontation began or the shooting that ended it.


    Public pressure grew. On March 12, police gave the case to State Attorney Norm Wolfinger. He told them they needed more evidence to arrest Zimmerman.


    Trayvon Martin's frustrated parents took their plea for justice to Washington Tuesday.


    At a congressional forum on neighborhood watch groups and racial profiling, they thanked Democratic lawmakers for their support.


    "As I said before, and I'll say it again - Trayvon was our son, but Trayvon is your son," Sybrina Fulton, Trayvon's mother said.


    New details deepen Trayvon Martin controversy


    Now, acting Sanford police chief Darren Scott is trying to calm a firestorm of criticism that race played a role. "I would like to answer questions here, but I will not comment at this time."


    Tuesday, Scott said Angela Corey, the new special prosecutor won't let him talk publicly about the case. "It's not in the police department's hands right now, ok?" Scott said. "I can't pass judgment right now on anyone right now, so we're going to allow the outcome of this investigation.


    But to Martin's angry parents and their lawyer, Ben Crump, this is double-standard justice. "It's bad when George Zimmerman makes a bad decision to do things with a racial implication," Crump said. "But it's a tragedy when an institution of law enforcement does it because that's all we have to believe in. If that fails us, what can his parents do? What can they do?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Donaldson View Post
    Detroit fell to Democracy. Believe me. I lived there for a few years of my life.

    "Democrats" in office caused ALL that happened to that state, and I'll tell you something, Coleman Young was one of the WORST mayors in all history:



    I suppose you are correct. When the politicians figured they could get re-elected by offering more "fish for a day", they brought the fall on.

    I see the principles of taking from one and giving to another as the problem though. When I work to get what I want, I tend to take care of what I have. I think you can go to most housing projects in most cities and see what people do when they are given something. They don't take care of it. I like the idea of helping people, but when we give them fish for a day they become dependant upon you. I don't believe this works. I believe the idea should be thrown on the trash heap. I would like to see us help people by teaching them to fish. I believe that once they have put some elbow grease into their endeavors they will work hard to maintain what they have gained.

    The one who worked for it understands the effort it took. The one who is given a new housing project has no problem shredding it, because they know somebody will come build them a new one.

    anyway, that is what I believe the problem is.
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    George Zimmerman supporters afraid to go public; fear backlash over Trayvon Martin shooting
    Neighborhood watch volunteer himself remains in hiding
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    By The Associated Press / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
    Wednesday, March 28, 2012, 8:42 AM

    Members of the New Black Panther Party rally next to a memorial to Trayvon Martin outside The Retreat at Twin Lakes community where Trayvon was shot and killed by George Zimmerman.
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    George Zimmerman has been in hiding since the killing of Trayvon Martin became national headlines.

    Joe Oliver is a friend of George Zimmerman and has actively appeared on numerous network and cable news shows to defend him in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.Trayvon Martin’s supporters pack churches, swarm rallies and wear hooded sweat shirts in solidarity while friends and family of George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer who shot the unarmed teen to death, remain largely out of sight. The few that have defended Zimmerman did so reluctantly, most fearing public backlash.

    Zimmerman, 28, has gone into hiding. His version of what happened on the rainy night of Feb. 26 has only trickled out from police and his attorney.

    Zimmerman said he was pursuing the 17-year-old Martin because he was acting suspicious. He said he lost sight of the teenager and Martin attacked him as he headed back to his sport utility vehicle.

    Zimmerman told police he fired in self-defense and was not charged, touching off widespread public outrage and protests across the country.

    Martin’s supporters believe race played a role in the shooting. Martin was black; Zimmerman’s father is white and his mother is Hispanic.

    PHOTOS: DEMONSTRATORS NATIONWIDE DEMAND JUSTICE FOR TRAYVON MARTIN

    “The family has had death threats, the father and mother, George has had death threats. Anything related to George is a target,” said Miguel Meza, who identified himself as Zimmerman’s cousin.

    George Hall, a retired Presbyterian minister, said he was Zimmerman’s neighbor for 20 years in Manassas, Va., until about 2001. Hall said Zimmerman and his brother attended church, and he wrote a recommendation for Zimmerman for a police academy in 2004.

    “Their parents taught them to treat everybody with respect. I’m tired of hearing about this race thing. It could be an element in it ... but I never would have thought of him as being a racist. His father was in the Army and was a white American and his mother was Peruvian. That makes him 50 percent Peruvian. A lot of stuff I hear, it irks me because people are drawing their own conclusions with very little evidence.”

    Meza spoke only briefly to an Associated Press reporter over the phone. It wasn’t immediately clear if he had talked to Zimmerman since the shooting, but he said other relatives are afraid to comment publicly, even though they think he is being treated unfairly.

    “The media has been quick to demonize George, but Trayvon Martin was no angelic boy walking,” Meza said.

    RELATED: HOMICIDE DETECTIVE WANTED ZIMMERMAN CHARGED WITH MANSLAUGHTER

    Zimmerman’s attorney, Craig Sonner, has said in more than one interview that his client’s nose was broken during the fight with Martin.

    The Orlando Sentinel has reported that Martin grabbed Zimmerman’s head and banged it several times against the sidewalk. Sonner said the gash on the back of Zimmerman’s head probably was serious enough for stitches, but he waited too long for treatment so the wound was already healing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Donaldson View Post
    I don't want to even look at that article. I'm quite certain it is in lock step with the anti-gun/liberal/all whites are racists meme/Treyvon was an innocent dope smoking thief minding his own business and was gunned down by a white man.
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    Actually, no... it was pretty reasonable.

    I'm wondering if someone didn't get in there first. lol

    It DOES have a couple of "questionable phrases".

    Thought you all might look before it is changed for the worse.
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    Oh, and finally you remember the New Black Panther guy who offered a $10,000 "reward" for the unlawful kidnapping of Zimmerman on national television? He was busted for allegedly being a felon in possession of a firearm in Georgia yesterday.

    Incidentally, his bond was set at.... wait for it..... $10,000.

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