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    Iran Claims to Have Test-Fired Missile That Can Destroy Warships
    TEHRAN, Iran — Iran announced its second major new missile test within days, saying Sunday it has successfully fired a high-speed torpedo capable of destroying huge warships and submarines.

    The tests came during war games that Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards have been holding in the Gulf and the Arabian Sea since Friday at a time of increased tensions with the United States over Tehran's nuclear program.

    The Iranian-made torpedo — called the "Hoot," or "whale" — has a speed of 223 miles per hour, said Gen. Ali Fadavi, deputy head of the Revolutionary Guards' Navy.

    That would make it about three or four times faster than a normal torpedo and as fast as the world's known fastest, the Russian-made VA-111 Shkval, developed in 1995. It was not immediately known if the Hoot was based on the Shkval.

    "It has a very powerful warhead designed to hit big submarines. Even if enemy warship sensors identify the missile, no warship can escape from this missile because of its high speed," Fadavi told state-run television.

    It was not immediately clear whether the torpedo can carry a nuclear warhead.

    State-run television, which stopped its normal programs to break news of the test, showed a brief clip of the launch from a ship into the waters of the Gulf. Television pictures also showed the torpedo hitting the target, a ship on the surface of the water.

    The new weapon could raise concerns over Iran's naval power in the Gulf, where during the war with Iraq in the 1980s Iranian forces attacked oil tankers from Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, prompting a massive U.S. naval operation to protect them. The U.S. Navy's 5th Fleet is based on the tiny Arab island nation of Bahrain in the Gulf.

    Cmdr. Jeff Breslau of the 5th Fleet said no special measures were taken by U.S. forces based on Bahrain in reaction to the Iranian war games, even after the latest missile test.

    "They can conduct exercises whenever they want and they frequently do, just as we do. We conduct exercises throughout this region," he told The Associated Press by telephone.

    He would not comment on whether the new torpedo represents a threat to American forces in the region.

    "In general terms, no matter where we operate in the world, we're aware of other capabilities that exist and of other countries that aren't as friendly to the U.S., and we pay attention to those capabilities," he said.

    On Friday, the first day of the war games, Iran test-fired the Fajr-3 missile, which can avoid radar and hit several targets simultaneously using multiple warheads. The Guards said the test was successful.

    More than 17,000 Revolutionary Guards forces are taking part in the weeklong maneuvers. On Sunday, paratroops practiced a drop in an attack on a mock enemy position, and warships, jet fighters, helicopters and sophisticated electronic equipment were used in other exercises.

    Iran, which views the United States as an arch foe and is concerned about the U.S. military presence in neighboring Iraq and Afghanistan, says the maneuvers aim to develop the Guards' defensive capabilities.

    Iran has routinely held war games over the past two decades to improve its combat readiness and test locally made equipment such as missiles, tanks and armored personnel carriers.

    The missile tests and war games this time around coincide with increasing tension between Iran and the West over Tehran's controversial nuclear program.

    The United States and its allies believe Iran is seeking to develop nuclear weapons, but Tehran denies that, saying its program is for generating electricity.

    The U.N. Security Council is demanding that Iran halt its uranium enrichment activities. But an Iranian envoy said its activities are "not reversible."

    Iran launched an arms development program during its 1980-88 war with Iraq to compensate for a U.S. weapons embargo. Since 1992, Iran has produced its own tanks, armored personnel carriers, missiles and a fighter plane.
    Let there be no doubt about this, these are Russian Shkval rocket torpedoes. And given that these are Shkvals, they can indeed carry nuclear warheads.

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    Default Re: Iran Claims to Have Test-Fired Missile That Can Destroy Warships

    Video of the launch - http://www.transasianaxis.com/vids/torplaunch.wmv

    If I find better, I'll post it.

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    Default Re: Iran Claims to Have Test-Fired Missile That Can Destroy Warships

    Plainly obvious to me ... this new fangled Iranian torpedo is only good at hitting water-borne targets standing still and not maneuvering.

    High-speed torpedo's need even higher speed manuevering capabilities than their intended targets.

    Second thing is that this torpedo is a surface running, calm water weapon. It is easily seen and countermeasures will kill it long before it ever hits a target capapble of self defense.

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    No claim to this, I saw it on several videos this morning.

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    Iran Tests Second Torpedo in As Many Days
    AP ^ | 4/3/6 | NASSER KARIMI

    TEHRAN, Iran -- Iran successfully tested its second new torpedo in as many days Monday, the latest weapon to be unveiled during war games in the Gulf that the military said are aimed at preparing the country's defenses against the United States.

    A spokesman for the elite Revolutionary Guards suggested the new, Iranian-made torpedo was more powerful and capable of going deeper than others in its arsenal.

    Gen. Mohammad Ebrahim Dehghani told state television the ship-launched weapon can target submarines at any depth and is powerful enough to "break a heavy warship" in two. He did not give the name of the new torpedo or any details of its speed or range.

    The torpedo was tested in the Straits of Hormuz, the narrow entrance of the Gulf and a vital corridor for oil supplies.

    The United States said that while Iran may have made "some strides" in its military, it is likely to be exaggerating its capabilities.

    "We know that the Iranians are always trying to improve their weapons system by both foreign and indigenous measures," Pentagon spokesman Brian Whitman said in Washington. "It's possible that they are increasing their capability and making strides in radar absorbing materials and technology."

    But "the Iranians have also been known to boast and exaggerate their statements about greater technical and tactical capabilities," he said.

    The Revolutionary Guards, the elite branch of Iran's military, have been holding their maneuvers — codenamed the "Great Prophet" — since Friday, touting what they call domestically built technological advances in their armed forces.

    A day earlier, Iran announced it had tested a different new torpedo — the high-speed "Hoot," which means "whale." Iran said the Hoot, moving at up to 223 mph, was too fast for any enemy ship to elude....

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    Default Re: Iran Claims to Have Test-Fired Missile That Can Destroy Warships

    Sean,
    A couple things on your post…

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Osborne
    this new fangled Iranian torpedo is only good at hitting water-borne targets standing still and not maneuvering.
    If this Iranian torpedo is really a Shkval, there is a possibility that it is the improved version that Russia has developed. The improved version actually slows down, tracks its target, and adjusts course as opposed to the 1st Gen version which is a straight-line model. On the other hand, Russia might want to keep the best types of their weapons only to themselves (as they were prone to doing in the Soviet days) and give the Iranians the basic model.

    Also, with a 220 mph top speed, I don't think it would make a whole lot of difference if the target was moving. The torpedo will get there so quickly it won't matter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Osborne
    Second thing is that this torpedo is a surface running, calm water weapon.
    I'm not so sure that it is surface running… It turns out the link I posted to the original article on Fox News has some larger and more clear video (sorry, I can't direct link to it). After seeing this, I think that what is giving the appearance of the torpedo skimming the surface of the water is really its supercavitiating gas bubbles rising to the surface.

    Since we know that the Iranians are completely incapable of producing anything this technologically advanced indigenously, this almost completely assures that they are really Russian Shkval torpedoes transferred to Iran. And thus, since they are in all likelihood Shkvals, these Iranian torpedoes "fly" underwater the same way the Shkval does.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Osborne
    and countermeasures will kill it long before it ever hits a target capapble of self defense.
    Just curious, what types of countermeasures do we have to defend against the Shkval? I had not previously heard of any. I had heard it postulated that a sonic method could be used to disrupt the gas bubble surrounding the torpedo causing it to impact the water and destroy itself.

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