A very BAD idea.....

[American Patriot]

How to Tweet to Aliens Tonight


by Natalie Wolchover
Date: 29 June 2012 Time: 04:42 PM ET

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Don't forget to contact aliens this evening.
All Twitter messages composed between 8 p.m. EDT Friday (June 29) and 3 a.m. EDT Saturday (June 30) tagged with the hashtag #ChasingUFOs will be collectively beamed up to space Aug. 15, toward a spot in the sky from which a possible alien signal originated.
The cosmic tweet is a belated reply to the Wow! signal, a mysterious radio transmission that was detected at the Big Ear radio observatory in Ohio in 1977 coming from the direction of the constellation Sagittarius. At its peak, the 72-second transmission was 30 times more powerful than ambient radiation from deep space, prompting the volunteer astronomer Jerry Ehman to scrawl "Wow!" next to the data on a computer printout, giving the signal its name.


No one knows whether the seemingly unnatural blip of data really was beamed toward Earth by aliens, and despite great effort, scientists have never managed to detect a repeat transmission from the same spot in the sky. Thirty-five years on, the Wow! signal remains an anomaly.


Now, the Sagittarius aliens — if they do, in fact, exist — are finally getting humanity's response. The National Geographic Channel has organized the cosmic social media event to coincide with the premiere of its new series, "Chasing UFOs." [Roswell, Other Famous UFO Claims Get a Fresh Look]


All #ChasingUFOs tweets, as well as several 72-second video messages being created by celebrities, writers, artists, filmmakers, musicians and scientists, will be rolled into a single message for space, according to the National Geographic Channel. The message will then be encrypted with the help of astronomers at Arecibo Observatory in Puerto Rico, and beamed skyward.


"More than likely, we will be using binary phase codes," or sequences of 1s and 0s, said Kristin Montalbano, a spokeswoman for the National Geographic Channel. "The [alien] scientists, on the other end, would theoretically be challenged to find a way to decrypt the transmission and understand our language," Montalbano told Life's Little Mysteries.


Hopefully, Twitter slang won't throw them off.


So, if you have something you'd like to say to E.T., let it rip — but make sure you keep it to 140 characters or less.

[American Patriot]

Is Stephen Hawking right about aliens?

Stephen Hawking thinks that making contact with aliens would be a very bad idea indeed. But with new, massive telescopes, we humans are stepping up the search. Have we really thought this through?

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  • Alok Jha
  • The Guardian, Thursday 29 April 2010
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Close enough? A scene from Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Photograph: Allstar/COLUMBIA/Sportsphoto Ltd./Allstar



In February 2008, Nasa sent the Beatles song, Across the Universe, across the universe. Pointing the telescopes in its Deep Space Network towards the north star, Polaris, astronomers played out their short cosmic DJ set, hoping that it might be heard by intelligent aliens during its 430-year journey to the star.


The hunt for intelligent species outside Earth may be a staple of literature and film – but it is happening in real life, too. Nasa probes are on the lookout for planets outside our solar system, and astronomers are carefully listening for any messages being beamed through space. How awe-inspiring it would be to get confirmation that we are not alone in the universe, to finally speak to an alien race. Wouldn't it?
Well no, according to the eminent physicist Stephen Hawking. "If aliens visit us, the outcome would be much as when Columbus landed in America, which didn't turn out well for the Native Americans," Hawking has said in a forthcoming documentary made for the Discovery Channel. He argues that, instead of trying to find and communicate with life in the cosmos, humans would be betteroff doing everything they can to avoid contact.


Hawking believes that, based on the sheer number of planets that scientists know must exist, we are not the only life-form in the universe. There are, after all, billions and billions of stars in our galaxy alone,with, it is reasonable to expect, an even greater number of planets orbiting them. And it is not unreasonable to expect some of that alien life to be intelligent, and capable of interstellar communication. So, when someone with Hawking's knowledge of the universe advises against contact, it's worth listening, isn't it?


Seth Shostak, a senior astronomer at the Seti Institute in California, the world's leading organisation searching for telltale alien signals, is not so sure. "This is an unwarranted fear," Shostak says. "If their interest in our planet is for something valuable that our planet has to offer, there's no particular reason to worry about them now. If they're interested in resources, they have ways of finding rocky planets that don't depend on whether we broadcast or not. They could have found us a billion years ago."


If we were really worried about shouting in the stellar jungle, Shostak says, the first thing to do would be to shut down the BBC, NBC, CBS and the radars at all airports. Those broadcasts have been streaming into space for years – the oldest is already more than 80 light years from Earth – so it is already too late to stop passing aliens watching every episode of Big Brother or What Katie and Peter Did Next.


The biggest and most active hunt for life outside Earth started in 1960, when Frank Drake pointed the Green Bank radio telescope in West Virginia towards the star Tau Ceti. He was looking for anomalous radio signals that could have been sent by intelligent life. Eventually, his idea turned into Seti (standing for Search for Extra Terrestrial Intelligence), which used the downtime on radar telescopes around the world to scour the sky for any signals. For 50 years, however, the sky has been silent.


There are lots of practical problems involved in hunting for aliens, of course, chief among them being distance. If our nearest neighbours were life-forms on the (fictional) forest moon of Endor, 1,000 light years away, it would take a millennium for us to receive any message they might send. If the Endorians were watching us, the light reaching them from Earth at this very moment would show them our planet as it was 1,000 years ago; in Europe that means lots of fighting between knights around castles and, in north America, small bands of natives living on the great plains. It is not a timescale that allows for quick banter – and, anyway, they might not be communicating in our direction.


The lack of a signal from ET has not, however, prevented astronomers and biologists (not to mention film-makers) coming up with a whole range of ideas about what aliens might be like. In the early days of Seti, astronomers focused on the search for planets like ours – the idea being that, since the only biology we know about is our own, we might as well assume aliens are going to be something like us. But there's no reason why that should be true. You don't even need to step off the Earth to find life that is radically different from our common experience of it.
"Extremophiles" are species that can survive in places that would quickly kill humans and other "normal" life-forms. These single-celled creatures have been found in boiling hot vents of water thrusting through the ocean floor, or at temperatures well below the freezing point of water. The front ends of some creatures that live near deep-sea vents are 200C warmer than their back ends.


"In our naive and parochial way, we have named these things extremophiles, which shows prejudice – we're normal, everything else is extreme," says Ian Stewart, a mathematician at Warwick University and author of What Does A Martian Look Like? "From the point of view of a creature that lives in boiling water, we're extreme because we live in much milder temperatures. We're at least as extreme compared to them as they are compared to us."


On Earth, life exists in water and on land but, on a giant gas planet, for example, it might exist high in the atmosphere, trapping nutrients from the air swirling around it. And given that aliens may be so out of our experience, guessing motives and intentions if they ever got in touch seems beyond the realm's even of Hawking's mind.


Paul Davies, an astrophysicist at Arizona State University and chair of Seti's post-detection taskforce, argues that alien brains, with their different architecture, would interpret information very differently from ours. What we think of as beautiful or friendly might come across as violent to them, or vice versa. "Lots of people think that because they would be so wise and knowledgeable, they would be peaceful," adds Stewart. "I don't think you can assume that. I don't think you can put human views on to them; that's a dangerous way of thinking. Aliens are alien. If they exist at all, we cannot assume they're like us."


Answers to some of these conundrums will begin to emerge in the next few decades. The researchers at the forefront of the work are astrobiologists, working in an area that has steadily marched in from the fringes of science thanks to the improvements in technology available to explore space.


Scientists discovered the first few extrasolar planets in the early 1990s and, ever since, the numbers have shot up. Today, scientists know of 443 planets orbiting around more than 350 stars. Most are gas giants in the mould of Jupiter, the smallest being Gliese 581, which has a mass of 1.9 Earths. In 2009, Nasa launched the Kepler satellite, a probe specifically designed to look for Earth-like planets.


Future generations of ground-based telescopes, such as the proposed European Extremely Large Telescope (with a 30m main mirror), could be operational by 2030, and would be powerful enough to image the atmospheres of faraway planets, looking for chemical signatures that could indicate life. The Seti Institute also, finally, has a serious piece of kit under construction: the Allen Array (funded by a $11.5m/£7.5m donation from Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen) has, at present, 42 radio antennae, each six metres in diameter, but there are plans, if the Seti Institute can raise another $35m, to have up to 300 radio dishes.


In all the years that Seti has been running, it has managed to look carefully at less than 1,000 star systems. With the full Allen Array, they could look at 1,000 star systems in a couple of years.


Shostak is confident that, as telescope technology keeps improving, Seti will find an ET signal within the next two decades. "We will have looked at another million star systems in two dozen years. If this is going to work, it will work soon."


And what happens if and when we detect a signal? "My strenuous advice will be that the coordinates of the transmitting entity should be kept confidential, until the world community has had a chance to evaluate what it's dealing with," Davies told the Guardian recently. "We don't want anybody just turning a radio telescope on the sky and sending their own messages to the source."


But his colleague, Shostak, says we should have no such concerns. "You'll have told the astronomical community – that's thousands of people. Are you going to ask them all not to tell anybody where you're pointing your antenna? There's no way you could do that.


"And anyway, why wouldn't you tell them where [the alien lifeform] is? Are you afraid people will broadcast their own message? They might do that but, remember, The Gong Show has already been broadcast for years." And, for that matter, the Beatles.

[American Patriot]

Stephen Hawking takes a hard line on aliens

The eminent scientist warns that if there is life out there, we probably don't want it messing with us

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  • Leo Hickman
  • guardian.co.uk, Monday 26 April 2010 12.05 EDT

Sigourney Weaver as Ripley in Alien Resurrection (1997). Photograph: Cinetext Collection/Allstar Picture Library



Has Stephen Hawking been rewatching his box set of the Alien movies?


It would appear so, as his opinion of whether we should make contact with any alien life forms we discover in the future has suddenly hardened. According to a new documentary series he has made for the Discovery Channel : "If aliens visit us, the outcome would be much as when Columbus landed in America, which didn't turn out well for the Native Americans."


Hawking believes we would be well-advised to keep the volume down on our intergalactic chatter and do all we can to prevent any "nomadic" aliens moseying our way to take a look-see. Should they find us here tucked away in the inner reaches of the solar system, chances are they'd zap us all and pillage any resources they could get their hands on. Our own history, says Hawking, proves that first encounters very rarely begin: "Do take a seat. I'll pop the kettle on. Milk? Sugar?"


"Such advanced aliens would perhaps become nomads, looking to conquer and colonise whatever planets they can reach," says the theoretical physicist in Into the Universe with Stephen Hawking. "To my mathematical brain, the numbers alone make thinking about aliens perfectly rational. The real challenge is to work out what aliens might actually be like."


Any alien who manages to reach Earth is, by definition, going to be far more advanced than us. Contrary to the claims of our own alien abductees, Hawking thinks it unlikely aliens will come all this way just to prod and poke us, take some samples, and pop back home in time for Show and Tell. Logic dictates that we will be the Stoke to their Chelsea.


It's all well and good Hawking warning us now, but couldn't he have told us to be more careful a few decades ago? After all, we've been pumping out our musings for all to see and hear since the very first radio telecommunications were broadcast a century ago. Any alien with their antennae pointed in our direction would already have quite a good sense of our intellectual capabilities. All they need do is take their pick from any of our cultural offerings being broadcast into the ether. (Let's just hope they didn't tune in when Battlefield Earth was showing, as that paints us in a poor light on so many levels.)


It's good to see that, since the last time I discussed this subject here on Cif, no more "Cosmic Calls" have been transmitted into space by people such as Professor Alexander Zaitsev, the chief scientist at the Russian Academy of Science's Institute of Radio Engineering and Electronics, who is a keen promoter of METI (Messaging to Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence).


And there's also not been any update or addition to "Principle 8" of the International Astronomical Union's Central Bureau for Astronomical Telegrams, which states:

No response to a signal or other evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence should be sent until appropriate internal consultations have taken place. The procedures for such consultations will be the subject of a separate agreement, declaration or arrangement.

However, Nasa did beam the Beatles' Across the Universe towards the vicinity of Polaris in 2008, in the hope that an alien would take a sympathetic view of John Lennon's rather hopeful lyric that "Nothing's gonna change my world." (Personally, if I was an alien in possession of a pimped-up laser, I would set it to "destroy" upon hearing a song with the opening line: "Words are flying out like endless rain into a paper cup.")


Really, though, what should our strategy be for contacting aliens? Should we shut the hell up? Or should we keep transmitting? (Maybe they will catch some episodes of Lost and be able to tell us what on earth was going on? Or maybe Lost is a big shout out sent from a distant planet and we just don't realise yet?)


And what if a keen astronomer gives us notice that an advance party of aliens has entered the solar system and is headed our way at full speed? Should we all fall to the ground – à la Flash Forward – and play dead? Or should we lay an extra place-setting at the table and drape a massive peace flag in low orbit?


Thankfully, there are some people on this planet who have given this subject some serious thought. Earlier this year, Paul Davies, the chair of the Seti (Search For Extraterrestrial Intelligence) Post-Detection Task Group, told Jon Ronson what his strategy would be, upon making contact:

We're talking about two civilisations communicating their finest achievements and their deepest beliefs and attitudes. I feel we should send something about our level of scientific attainment and understanding of how the world works. Some fundamental physics. Maybe some biology. But primarily physics and astronomy…

Our appreciation of art and music is very much tied to our cognitive architecture. There's no particular reason why some other intelligent species will share these aesthetic values. The general theory of relativity is impressive and will surely be understood by them. But if we send a Picasso or a Mona Lisa? They wouldn't care. I mean the phonograph disc that went off on Voyager had speeches by Kurt Waldheim and Jimmy Carter. That's a world away from what we should be doing…

One of the first things we might want to say is that there's no unitary government on this planet, no unitary political philosophy or ideology. We're a great place for freedom, if not anarchy, and so we're putting together the best possible coherent package for your consideration, but expect it to be followed up with all sorts of bizarre and incoherent babble that you must treat with some discretion. Although how we'll express all this when we only have mathematics in common will be something of a challenge.

I think Paul Davies is a tad optimistic about how gentlemanly an alien encounter would be. I'm with Stephen Hawking on this one. Even if we were show to them we can calculate pi to a billion decimal places, aliens are bound to be trigger-happy when they meet us for the first time.

And given our past form, who would blame them?

[American Patriot]

Journal of Cosmology, 2010, Vol 7, pages 1777-1794.
JournalofCosmology.com May, 2010

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Commentaries: Stephen Hawking's Aliens

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Abstract Famed astrophysicist Dr. Stephen Hawking has voiced concern about the dangers, he believes, are posed by alien predators who may arrive in giant space ships, to conquer, enslave, destroy, colonize, and voraciously exploit the resources of Earth. According to Hawking:
"To my mathematical brain, the numbers alone make thinking about aliens perfectly rational. The real challenge is to work out what aliens might actually be like..." According to Hawking aliens "would be only limited by how much power they could harness and control, and that could be far more than we might first imagine...Such advanced aliens would perhaps become nomads, looking to conquer and colonize whatever planets they can reach...I imagine they might exist in massive ships, having used up all the resources from their home planet...If aliens ever visit us, I think the outcome would be much as when Christopher Columbus first landed in America, which didn’t turn out very well for the Native Americans."





http://journalofcosmology.com/Aliens100.html

[American Patriot]

The Myth of Evil Aliens

Why Stephen Hawking is wrong about the danger of extraterrestrial intelligences


By Michael Shermer | May 19, 2011 |


Image: Illustration by Invisible Creature



With the Allen Telescope Array run by the SETI Institute in northern California, the time is coming when we will encounter an extraterrestrial intelligence (ETI). Contact will probably come sooner rather than later because of Moore’s Law (proposed by Intel’s co-founder Gordon E. Moore), which posits a doubling of computing power every one to two years. It turns out that this exponential growth curve applies to most technologies, including the search for ETI (SETI): according to astronomer and SETI founder Frank Drake, our searches today are 100 trillion times more powerful than 50 years ago, with no end to the improvements in sight. If E.T. is out there, we will make contact. What will happen when we do, and how should we respond?


Such questions, once the province of science fiction, are now being seriously considered in the oldest and one of the most prestigious scientific journals in the world—Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society A—which devoted 17 scholarly articles to “The Detection of Extra-Terrestrial Life and the Consequences for Science and Society” in its February issue. The myth, for example, that society will collapse into fear or break out in pandemonium—or that scientists and politicians will engage in a conspiratorial cover-up—is belied by numerous responses.



Two such examples were witnessed in December 2010, when NASA held a very public press conference to announce a possible new life-form based on arsenic, and in 1996, when scientists proclaimed that a Martian rock contained fossil evidence of ancient life on the Red Planet and President Bill Clinton made a statement on the topic. Budget-hungry space agencies such as NASA and private fund-raising organizations such as the SETI Institute will shout to the high heavens about anything extraterrestrial they find, from microbes to Martians. But should we shout back to the aliens?


According to Stephen Hawking, we should keep our mouths shut. “We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn’t want to meet,” he explained in his 2010 Discovery Channel documentary series. “I imagine they might exist in massive ships, having used up all the resources from their home planet. Such advanced aliens would perhaps become nomads, looking to conquer and colonize whatever planets they can reach.” Given the history of encounters between earthly civilizations in which the more advanced enslave or destroy the less developed, Hawk*ing concluded: “If aliens ever visit us, I think the outcome would be much as when Christopher Columbus first landed in America, which didn’t turn out very well for the Native Americans.”


I am skeptical. Although we can only represent the subject of an N of 1 trial, and our species does have an unenviable track rec*ord of first contact between civilizations, the data trends for the past half millennium are encouraging: colonialism is dead, slavery is dying, the percentage of populations that perish in wars has decreased, crime and violence are down, civil liberties are up, and, as we are witnessing in Egypt and other Arab countries, the desire for representative democracies is spreading, along with education, science and technology. These trends have made our civilization more inclusive and less exploitative. If we extrapolate that 500-year trend out for 5,000 or 500,000 years, we get a sense of what an ETI might be like.


In fact, any civilization capable of extensive space travel will have moved far beyond exploitative colonialism and unsustainable energy sources. Enslaving the natives and harvesting their resources may be profitable in the short term for terrestrial civilizations, but such a strategy would be unsustainable for the tens of thousands of years needed for interstellar space travel.


In this sense, thinking about extraterrestrial civilizations forces us to consider the nature and progress of our terrestrial civilization and offers hope that, when we do make contact, it will mean that at least one other intelligence managed to reach the level where harnessing new technologies displaces controlling fellow beings and where exploring space trumps conquering land. Ad astra! 

[American Patriot]

Given what I know myself as far as I am concerned we've had contact before. One way. We got signals. Whether we actually responded I don't know.

That we have been broadcasting radio and television signals for 100 years now tells me that some of those signals made it outside our solar system and have traveled 100 light years. (Radio was invented between the years of 1860 and 1910 and came into itself around 1909 or so). That has given signals time to travel pretty much in all directions from the Earth into interstellar space.

There are between roughly 14,600 and 113,000 star systems within that distance from us (this comes from a pretty complex calculation about star density, population and stars per cubic parsec (100 LY is about 30 parsecs)).

Roughly half of those are binary star systems. So... probably somewhere 170,000 stars are within 100 light years of Earth.

The Milky Way is about 120,000 light years across (to give you an idea of the vastness of space).

I counted 11 known exoplanets within 42 light years of Earth. Three of those have "Earth Normal" Gravity (withing a few points of 1.0).

If just ONE of them is inhabited with an intelligence species of creatures with the capability of listening in to radio signals, they've already been made aware of our existence. The closest one is only 20 light years off.

What IF they are highly advanced? What IF they already have capability of interstellar space travel? What IF they already left with a fleet of ships to "visit" us?

If they can get here - then they will possibly be friendly.

What IF what heard us are nomads, gobbling up resources as they go (the more likely scenario) and they were close by when the signals started coming in.... and they changed directions for Earth?

[American Patriot]

If Aliens Exist, should we be eager to meet them?

Posted by Ethan on April 26, 2010

To confine our attention to terrestrial matters would be to limit the human spirit. -Stephen Hawking

Stephen Hawking is in the news today, big time. Why? He says that intelligent aliens almost certainly exist, and that we should definitely not try to contact them. In fact, he argues, we should stay as quiet as possible and try to avoid detection. To quote him:

If aliens visit us, the outcome would be much as when Columbus landed in America, which didn’t turn out well for the Native Americans.
We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn’t want to meet.

I was floored. And I was even more shocked when I realized that this opinion was a common one among my scientific peers.



With all due respect, I completely disagree. If an alien’s ship managed to come all the way from another star system to within range of Earth, we would already know an incredible amount about them. What follows is what I would say to them. (And you should feel free to opine in the comments.)



We know that, like us, you grew to prominence on your planet, evolving over hundreds of millions of years to become the most successful species on your world. We know — like us — you gained mastery over your environment, learning to utilize resources and tools to construct a myriad of things that would have never existed without your intervention.



And, unlike us, you have managed to build a ship to sustain you during an interstellar voyage, far away from any natural power sources (like stars). This is a fantastic achievement, and we are a long way off from anything approaching this! Your technology is far, far advanced from ours. It’s very likely that your astronomy skills — particularly for finding planets you’re interested in coming to for their natural resources — are superb, and vastly superior to our own.



In other words, if you’re looking for a world in order to harvest resources from and we’re a good fit, you’re going to find us whether we advertise or not.



But we are young, and in our technological infancy. It was only 10,000 years ago — about 400 generations — that we started planting seeds and growing our own food. It is only now, at the present day, that we are beginning to learn how to live within the means of what our planet can sustainably provide. And you must have figured that part out in order to develop the technology and devote the resources to sustainably survive without a planet or power source at all.



There are so many questions we are striving to learn the answer to, that we are only even beginning to pose well. And yet, to survive a long-term space journey, any alien race must have already figured out an answer to these and many other questions. The two big ones that I want to ask are these:

• We have evolved to be selfish hoarders, always hungering for more, and to expand beyond the means of our resources. How did you overcome the limitations of your evolution?
• The resources available to plunder on our planet are limited, and it is almost unimaginable to imagine surviving a long amount of time (many years, at least, but probably many generations) without any power source at all! But you did it. What was your solution to your energy needs?

But to imagine malevolent aliens? Why? Destroying us would be like crushing a colony of microbes just for kicks to them. Their technological level must be at least hundreds, if not tens of thousands of years beyond ours. Can you imagine even the greatest military force from the Napoleonic Era even lasting a few weeks against our modern warfare technologies? It simply wouldn’t happen.



But what irks me most of all is the cowardice behind a viewpoint that we shouldn’t rush to meet a peer in this Universe. It would be like forgetting the best part of being human: our bravery, our sense of adventure, our will to explore, our thirst for learning and discovery, our curiosity, and our desire to experience all that existence has to offer.



I am eager. I want to meet them. I want to know the answers to those questions. Right now, when I put the numbers I think are most likely into the Drake equation, I find it very unlikely that there ought to be another intelligent civilization within a hundred million light years of us. But if there is, I’m going to try to find them.



So if any aliens are reading this, PICK US! HERE! All of humanity may not be ready for you, but some of us are. If you come, the rest of us will come around. And I’ll be among the first to welcome and greet you. Be gentle with us and be careful with our delicate biology. We have a lot to learn, and could use a great teacher. I hope to hear from you soon.

[AGEUSAF]

LOL, kind of like being stranded in a broke down car in the desert and letting everyone know that goes by that you are stranded and desperate.

So humans are saying hey check us out and we are struggling like hell right now come on over lol.

[American Patriot]

LOL

I kinda got a similar impression.

[Malsua]

I'm of the opinion that advertising is bad.

At this point however, anyone that is listening and within range, knows we're here.

[American Patriot]

Exactly. I think my point was "WTF are they doing? Why did they do it? Who the HELL gave them permission because I sure as hell didn't!"

[Luke]

Put yourself in the "aliens" shoes. If you had the technology to travel across the universe would you want to stop on a planet where the highest form of intelligence can't go one day without trying to kill each other? I wouldn't waste my time.

On the other hand, if you had seen how far this planet had progressed from sending "morse code" radio signals to 500 channels of HD television,,,

[Malsua]

On the other hand, if you had seen how far this planet had progressed from sending "morse code" radio signals to 500 channels of HD television,,,

While we consider it a significant improvement, they might look it the same way we might look at an bird using a stick to dig for grubs versus the same bird using a better stick. In other words...big fricking deal.

[American Patriot]

I don't think we can put ourselves in aliens' shoes. They might not wear shoes and they are ALIENS!

Think about it from our point of view a minute. Do we have a clue how the Chinese think?

The Muslims?

Can we understand either of them and they are humans?

They have completely alien brains and thinking....