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    Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms
    April 5, 2010

    President Obama said Monday that he was revamping American nuclear strategy to substantially narrow the conditions under which the United States would use nuclear weapons.

    But the president said in an interview that he was carving out an exception for “outliers like Iran and North Korea” that have violated or renounced the main treaty to halt nuclear proliferation.

    Discussing his approach to nuclear security the day before formally releasing his new strategy, Mr. Obama described his policy as part of a broader effort to edge the world toward making nuclear weapons obsolete, and to create incentives for countries to give up any nuclear ambitions. To set an example, the new strategy renounces the development of any new nuclear weapons, overruling the initial position of his own defense secretary.

    Mr. Obama’s strategy is a sharp shift from those of his predecessors and seeks to revamp the nation’s nuclear posture for a new age in which rogue states and terrorist organizations are greater threats than traditional powers like Russia and China. ()

    It eliminates much of the ambiguity that has deliberately existed in American nuclear policy since the opening days of the cold war. For the first time, the United States is explicitly committing not to use nuclear weapons against nonnuclear states that are in compliance with the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, even if they attacked the United States with biological or chemical weapons or launched a crippling cyberattack.

    Those threats, Mr. Obama argued, could be deterred with “a series of graded options,” a combination of old and new conventional weapons. “I’m going to preserve all the tools that are necessary in order to make sure that the American people are safe and secure,” he said in the interview in the Oval Office.

    White House officials said the new strategy would include the option of reconsidering the use of nuclear retaliation against a biological attack, if the development of such weapons reached a level that made the United States vulnerable to a devastating strike.

    Mr. Obama’s new strategy is bound to be controversial, both among conservatives who have warned against diluting the United States’ most potent deterrent and among liberals who were hoping for a blanket statement that the country would never be the first to use nuclear weapons.

    Mr. Obama argued for a slower course, saying, “We are going to want to make sure that we can continue to move towards less emphasis on nuclear weapons,” and, he added, to “make sure that our conventional weapons capability is an effective deterrent in all but the most extreme circumstances.”

    The release of the new strategy, known as the Nuclear Posture Review, opens an intensive nine days of nuclear diplomacy geared toward reducing weapons. Mr. Obama plans to fly to Prague to sign a new arms-control agreement with Russia on Thursday and then next week will host 47 world leaders in Washington for a summit meeting on nuclear security.

    The most immediate test of the new strategy is likely to be in dealing with Iran, which has defied the international community by developing a nuclear program that it insists is peaceful but that the United States and its allies say is a precursor to weapons. Asked about the escalating confrontation with Iran, Mr. Obama said he was now convinced that “the current course they’re on would provide them with nuclear weapons capabilities,” though he gave no timeline.

    He dodged when asked whether he shared Israel’s view that a “nuclear capable” Iran was as dangerous as one that actually possessed weapons.

    “I’m not going to parse that right now,” he said, sitting in his office as children played on the South Lawn of the White House at a daylong Easter egg roll. But he cited the example of North Korea, whose nuclear capabilities were unclear until it conducted a test in 2006, which it followed with a second shortly after Mr. Obama took office.

    “I think it’s safe to say that there was a time when North Korea was said to be simply a nuclear-capable state until it kicked out the I.A.E.A. and become a self-professed nuclear state,” he said, referring to the International Atomic Energy Agency. “And so rather than splitting hairs on this, I think that the international community has a strong sense of what it means to pursue civilian nuclear energy for peaceful purposes versus a weaponizing capability.”

    Mr. Obama said he wanted a new United Nations sanctions resolution against Iran “that has bite,” but he would not embrace the phrase “crippling sanctions” once used by Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton. And he acknowledged the limitations of United Nations action. “We’re not naïve that any single set of sanctions automatically is going to change Iranian behavior,” he said, adding “there’s no light switch in this process.”

    In the year since Mr. Obama gave a speech in Prague declaring that he would shift the policy of the United States toward the elimination of nuclear weapons, his staff has been meeting — and arguing — over how to turn that commitment into a workable policy, without undermining the credibility of the country’s nuclear deterrent.

    The strategy to be released on Tuesday is months late, partly because Mr. Obama had to adjudicate among advisers who feared he was not changing American policy significantly enough, and those who feared that anything too precipitous could embolden potential adversaries. One senior official said that the new strategy was the product of 150 meetings, including 30 convened by the White House National Security Council, and that even then Mr. Obama had to step in to order rewrites.

    He ended up with a document that differed considerably from the one President George W. Bush published in early 2002, just three months after the Sept. 11 attacks. Mr. Bush, too, argued for a post-cold-war rethinking of nuclear deterrence, reducing American reliance on those weapons.

    But Mr. Bush’s document also reserved the right to use nuclear weapons “to deter a wide range of threats,” including banned chemical and biological weapons and large-scale conventional attacks. Mr. Obama’s strategy abandons that option — except if the attack is by a nuclear state, or a nonsignatory or violator of the nonproliferation treaty.

    The document to be released Tuesday after months of study led by the Defense Department will declare that “the fundamental role” of nuclear weapons is to deter nuclear attacks on the United States, allies or partners, a narrower presumption than the past. But Mr. Obama rejected the formulation sought by arms control advocates to declare that the “sole role” of nuclear weapons is to deter a nuclear attack.

    There are five declared nuclear states — the United States, Britain, France, Russia and China. Three states with nuclear weapons have refused to sign — India, Pakistan and Israel — and North Korea renounced the treaty in 2003. Iran remains a signatory, but the United Nations Security Council has repeatedly found it in violation of its obligations, because it has hidden nuclear plants and refused to answer questions about evidence it was working on a warhead.

    In shifting the nuclear deterrent toward combating proliferation and the sale or transfer of nuclear material to terrorists or nonnuclear states, Mr. Obama seized on language developed in the last years of the Bush administration. It had warned North Korea that it would be held “fully accountable” for any transfer of weapons or technology. But the next year, North Korea was caught aiding Syria in building a nuclear reactor but suffered no specific consequence.

    Mr. Obama was asked whether the American failure to make North Korea pay a heavy price for the aid to Syria undercut Washington’s credibility.

    “I don’t think countries around the world are interested in testing our credibility when it comes to these issues,” he said. He said such activity would leave a country vulnerable to a nuclear strike, and added, “We take that very seriously because we think that set of threats present the most serious security challenge to the United States.”

    He indicated that he hoped to use this week’s treaty signing with Russia as a stepping stone toward more ambitious reductions in nuclear arsenals down the road, but suggested that would have to extend beyond the old paradigm of Russian-American relations.

    “We are going to pursue opportunities for further reductions in our nuclear posture, working in tandem with Russia but also working in tandem with NATO as a whole,” he said.

    An obvious such issue would be the estimated 200 tactical nuclear weapons the United States still has stationed in Western Europe. Russia has called for their removal, and there is growing interest among European nations in such a move as well. But Mr. Obama said he wanted to consult with NATO allies before making such a commitment.

    The summit meeting that opens next week in Washington will bring together nearly four dozen world leaders, the largest such gathering by an American president since the founding of the United Nations 65 years ago. Mr. Obama said he hoped to use the session to lay down tangible commitments by individual countries toward his goal of securing the world’s nuclear material so it does not fall into the hands of terrorists or dangerous states.

    “Our expectation is not that there’s just some vague, gauzy statement about us not wanting to see loose nuclear materials,” he said. “We anticipate a communiqué that spells out very clearly, here’s how we’re going to achieve locking down all the nuclear materials over the next four years.”
    This sounds as bad as Bill Clinton's moves that restricted US nuke use to only after being hit with a first strike.

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    http://www.transasianaxis.com/vb/showthread.php?t=2548

    1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

    2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

    3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

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    I heard an "in passing" comment this morning on Bill Bennett about Obama making a statement in regard to "not using nukes in the case of" chemical or biological weapons against us....

    I heard nothing further in that regard.

    NOW, having read the above, this is very, very bothersome.
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    Giuliani: Obama's Anti-Nuke Move 'Left-Wing Dream'

    Tuesday, 06 Apr 2010 01:38 PM
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    By: John Rossomando

    Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani has terse words for Barack Obama’s nuclear policy, describing it as characteristic of an “inept” leader who seems intent on living out a “left-wing dream.”

    The Obama administration nuclear policy unveiled Tuesday calls for reducing the number of potential American nuclear targets and says the United States would not necessarily use nuclear weapons in response to attacks by chemical or biological weapons.

    The policy, called a nuclear posture review, followed a year of Pentagon deliberations in consultation with allied governments and was released in advance of Thursday’s signing of a new treaty to succeed the 1991 Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START).

    “A nuclear-free world has been a 60-year dream of the left, just like socialized healthcare,” Giuliani said during a recent interview with National Review Online. “This new policy, like Obama’s government-run health program, is a big step in that direction.”

    The United States should not be downgrading its nuclear capabilities at a time when the nuclear threat from Iran and North Korea is increasing, Giuliani said.

    “President Obama thinks we can all hold hands, sing songs and have peace symbols,” Giuliani said. “North Korea and Iran are not singing along with the president.”

    The former mayor and presidential candidate believes Obama fails to understand how to negotiate from a place of strength, and his desire to prevent Israel from using a military option against Iran along with his decision to back down with the Russians on missile defense show this in his opinion.

    “The president doesn’t understand the concept of leverage,” said Giuliani, who was an associate attorney general in the Reagan administration. “Leverage means the other guy has to be afraid of you. I worked for a president, Ronald Reagan, who understood that brilliantly, and that’s how we won the Cold War. You need to appear to be unpredictable.

    Reagan’s “State Department understood that you need to create pressure, to create something they’re afraid of. Tell me where Obama has done that.”
    Instead of taking steps to guarantee national security, the Obama administration has “taken many steps backward” on a number of national security issues, Giuliani said.

    “Beyond nuclear policy, this is still an administration in a state of confusion about how to deal with terrorism. They’re out of control. And they have shown an inability to make tough decisions,” Giuliani said.

    “It’s not inconsequential how the president dithers over so many issues, yet when it comes to dealing with Israel, one of our strongest allies, he doesn’t show much ambiguity. With Israel, he has been extremely hostile. His treatment of the Israeli prime minister [during his recent Washington visit] was shocking.”

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    Obama’s Dangerous Views Concerning Self-Defense

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    John Lillpop Tuesday, April 6, 2010



    Once again, Barack Obama proves conclusively that, regardless of where he was born, he is not an American!

    During the presidential campaign, Barack Obama made it perfectly clear that the use of disproportionate force was sometimes necessary to defend one’s self.

    Of course, he was referring to Republicans challenging his presidential aspirations and other delusions of grandeur.

    As reported in the June 18, 2008 Wall Street Journal, in part:

    “Mobster wisdom tells us never to bring a knife to a gun fight. But what does political wisdom say about bringing a gun to a knife fight?

    “That’s exactly what Barack Obama said he would do to counter Republican attacks “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” Obama said at a Philadelphia fundraiser Friday night.”

    That tough talk is in marked contrast to Obama’s wuss comments about taking the nuclear option off the table in order to defend America.

    As reported, in part, at the New York Times:

    “WASHINGTON — President Obama said Monday that he was revamping American nuclear strategy to substantially narrow the conditions under which the United States would use nuclear weapons.

    “Discussing his approach to nuclear security the day before formally releasing his new strategy, Mr. Obama described his policy as part of a broader effort to edge the world toward making nuclear weapons obsolete, and to create incentives for countries to give up any nuclear ambitions. To set an example, the new strategy renounces the development of any new nuclear weapons, overruling the initial position of his own defense secretary.

    “Mr. Obama’s strategy is a sharp shift from those of his predecessors and seeks to revamp the nation’s nuclear posture for a new age in which rogue states and terrorist organizations are greater threats than traditional powers like Russia and China.”

    To moon bats on the left, Obama’s arguments make perfect sense: After all, fighting patriotic Republicans is far more vital than defending America against foreign evil-doers.

    Once again, Barack Obama proves conclusively that, regardless of where he was born, he is not an American!

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    The Final Treaty

    by J. R. Nyquist

    Weekly Column Published: 3.26.2010

    More than twenty years ago, working on a book that was later titled Origins of the Fourth World War, I inserted a quote from the Treaty for the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons in Latin America, which states: "That nuclear weapons, whose terrible effects are suffered, indiscriminately and inexorably, by military forces and civilian population alike, constitute, through the persistence of the radioactivity they release, an attack on the integrity of the human species and ultimately may even render the whole earth uninhabitable." The treaty further states: "That general and complete disarmament under effective international control is a vital matter which all the peoples of the world equally demand."

    About the above, I predicted, "It is, in essence, the language of the final treaty; of the treaty that is coming...." There is an inevitability to certain ideas, for better or worse, and this can be discerned far in advance. Today the "final treaty" will be signed on April 8th, marking the first step in President Barack Obama's march toward a world free of nuclear weapons. Currently the U.S. deploys 2,100 strategic warheads while Russia deploys 2,600 warheads. According to the president of the Partnership for Global Security, Kenneth Luongo, the larger meaning of the present treaty is the way it delegitimizes nuclear weapons.

    There is an eloquent summation of all this in James Burnham's book, Suicide of the West, where he wrote: "It is a mark of the ascendancy of liberal ideology ... in the advanced Western nations, most particularly the United States and Great Britain, that for the first time in history disarmament proposals and pacifist-tending ideas are being pressed not by the nations with inferior arms in order to weaken the stronger, but by the stronger in order to weaken themselves: to sacrifice their relative advantage, and thereby to lessen their ability to defend their interests and ideals." As Burnham correctly noted, "what is ending in our age is not empire but merely the empires of the West."

    To further make his point, Burnham quoted Louis Veuillot, who wrote: "When I am the weaker, I ask you for my freedom, because that is your principle; but when I am the stronger, I take away your freedom, because that is my principle." Here is what Burnham calls "the dialectic of liberalism." It is also the dialectic of the arms control process between Russia and the United States. The treaty that President Obama is going to sign will not disarm Moscow in the same way it disarms the United States. "When the cost to technical intelligence collection systems is taken into account," wrote former intelligence official Bill Lee in 1997, "the U.S. spent billions trying to verify the 'arms control' agreements with the FSU [Former Soviet Union]. It was largely, if not entirely, a waste." As Lee further explained, the KGB and its successor organizations have waged "a disinformation campaign on arms control" that has effectively turned the Western political elite into a pack of useful idiots. "Given the relatively small number of U.S. missile and bomber warheads likely to survive a Russian preemptive strike under START II," wrote Lee, "if Russia can maintain its Triad of strategic offensive and defensive forces, it will become the preeminent nuclear superpower. The Russian military and senior political officials understand this very well even if the U.S. does not." (See The ABM Treaty Charade: A Study in Elite Illusion and Delusion, by William T. Lee, pp. 141-42.)

    In 1990, CIA analyst Peter Vincent Pry wrote: "The balance of U.S.-Soviet strategic lethality and survivability, whether lethality is measured in equivalent yield, countermilitary potential, equivalent weapons, or single-shot kill probability, heavily favors the USSR." (See The Strategic Nuclear Balance and Why it Matters, Peter Pry.) Sadly, the reduction of the U.S. nuclear arsenal since 1990 has more than compensated for any reductions on the Russian side, due to the lack of hardening of U.S. strategic sites (as lamented by Pry). The nuclear balance, since the supposed "fall of the Soviet Union," has consistently and steadily increased Moscow's effective superiority, and the Russians have played an excellent waiting game as they anticipate the accumulation of further advantages.

    In 1988 Joseph D. Douglass, Jr. put together a book titled Why the Soviets Violate Arms Control Treaties. It is a compilation of expert opinion and testimony on Soviet motivation during the Cold War. It is as accurate and vital today as it was at the time of publication. The appendix of the book contains an essay by the high-level defector Jan Sejna, titled "Arms Control and Soviet Strategy." The chief motivation behind everything done in Russia, said Sejna, is Marxism-Leninism.

    "There is a tendency among many Western commentators on Soviet affairs to talk about Marxism-Leninist ideology as if it were dead. They expect to see modifications in Soviet policy, especially when the top level strategic leadership of the Soviet Union changes. Changes there are, although these are most often tactical innovations, not substantive changes. Occasionally there are even variations in strategy. However ... there have been no significant changes in the strategic goals to establish a 'dictatorship of the proletariat' in every country worldwide, each controlled according to the principle of proletarian internationalism."

    If we look carefully at Moscow's policy, we find a country that remains allied with the Communist enemies of the United States (in North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba, Vietnam and China, etc.). It is a serious failing on the American side that enmity of the Communist nations is not recognized, neither do we recognize that Russia remains under effective KGB control, and that the KGB remains the "sword and shield" of the Communist Party Soviet Union (presently underground). Deception has always been a Soviet mainstay. On September 27th, 1905 the founder of the Soviet state, Vladimir Lenin, said: "Promises are like pie crusts, made to be broken...." In his Reply to Debate on War and Peace (1919) Lenin wrote, "It is ridiculous not to know the history of war, not to know that a treaty is a means of gaining strength."

    According to Sejna, "by 1963 the Soviets began to believe that at some time in the distant future, nuclear weapons might be prohibited." The leadership in Moscow, with great strategic foresight, realized that the elimination of nuclear weapons would deprive them of their most important advantage. Therefore the Russians put great effort into the development of advanced chemical and biological weapons. "Superiority in CBW [chemical-biological weapons] ... would enable the Soviets actually to increase their strength in a future era where nuclear weapons would be banned. However, this did not mean that the Soviet Union would discard its nuclear weapons; on the contrary, the Soviets would retain a substantial hidden reserve, because they could not trust the Western 'imperialists' to destroy their nuclear stockpiles."

    Exactly such a hidden reserve was testified to by intelligence expert Bill Lee, toward the end of his book (quoted above), where he wrote about Russia's extensive national ABM system and hidden stockpile of re-fire missiles and warheads. According to Lee, "While the treaties did not prohibit production of re-fire missiles and warheads, the FSU [Former Soviet Union] produced far more strategic missiles than were declared under START I and the INF Treaty. The U.S. does not know how many re-fire missiles were produced, nor where these stocks are located.

    Similarly, the FSU produced and stocked (at least) 50 to 100 percent more nuclear weapons than the U.S. estimated, and the U.S. does not know where those warheads are stored. CIA and DIA covered up all discrepancies in the Soviet declarations of weapons stocks under the START, INF and CFE Treaties." (Lee, p. 141.)

    Nothing can stop the disarmament process over time. It will advance, and will signify the weakening of the West as it signifies the strengthening of Russia and China. The final, predictable, and tragic result of all this was foreseen by James Burnham more than four decades ago. With all that happened during and after World War II, it seems that nothing has been learned about the essential nature of free society and the essential nature of societies that are decidedly not free.

    Copyright © 2010 Jeffrey R. Nyquist

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    April 13, 2010

    Here is video of President Obama today at a news conference closing his "Nuclear Security Summit," where he made the odd statement that "whether we like it or not, we (United States) remain a dominant military superpower, and when conflicts break out, we get pulled into it."

    Whether we like it or not?

    Does that mean President Obama does not like America being a "dominant military superpower?"

    Perhaps that is what is behind his drive to reduce America's Nuclear Arsenal, and why he does not want to move forward with development of new weapons systems in the future.




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    Notice a Pattern?

    NOW HE'S A CRESCENT LOON




    The first time I saw the swirling logo for the Nuclear Security Summit, it looked familiar. I soon figured out what it reminded me of: a crescent moon.

    The kind of crescent moon you see on the flags of Muslim countries (from left: Turkey, Algeria, Tunisia and Pakistan).

    Indeed, the crescent, often with a single or multiple stars, is the main symbol of Islam. So now there is something like it at an official presidential event, prominently displayed in photographs being beamed around the world.

    No, I am not suggesting President Obama is a secret Muslim. But I am certain the crescent-like design of the logo is not a coincidence, especially at an event where Iran's nuclear ambition and al Qaeda's search for a bomb are prime topics.

    Obama has been open about his aim to improve America's relations with Muslims. His bowing and apologies are nauseating, but they are consistent with his goal.

    And so is having a crescent-like logo at an event attended by Pakistani Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani (above), among others. The Washington Conference Center is plastered with the design, which includes a solid white circle above the arc, all superimposed on a world map.

    Consistent also is a report this week that says terms with religious connotations, such as "Islamic extremists" and "jihad," will no longer be used in National Security Council documents. The Associated Press reports the aim is to emphasize the White House desire to use more sensitive language and broaden the relationship beyond war. The phrase "war on terror" was also dropped.

    "Do you want to think about the US as the nation that fights terrorism or the nation you want to do business with? " Pradeep Ramamurthy, an NSC staffer, told AP. It also reports business leaders from more than 40 countries are coming to Washington for an "entrepreneurship summit" for Muslim businesses.

    Notably absent this week is Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The deep freeze in his relationship with Obama is a direct casualty of Obama's courting of Muslims, which includes intense pressure on Israel to make major concessions to Palestinians.

    So this is what change looks like.


    The crescent in the symbol...



    The crescent in the middle of the "round table"

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