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    NYPD 'army' for protests

    By CHUCK BENNETT, CARL CAMPANILE and LARRY CELONA

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    The NYPD has called up "an army of cops" to handle rival protests expected to draw thousands to the site of the planned Ground Zero mosque on the anniversary of 9/11, sources said yesterday.

    "We want to keep everyone in their corners. You don't want the opposing sides to clash," an NYPD official told The Post. "All eyes are going to be on New York City that day. No one wants to see a fight on Sept. 11."

    With as many as 4,000 riled-up demonstrators expected to pack into two blocks of Park Place between West Broadway and Broadway -- the site of the proposed mosque -- the department is sparing no expense to keep the peace, the official said.

    "There'll be an army of cops down there," the official said, estimating the number of officers at several hundred.

    The dueling rallies -- to be held tomorrow, on the ninth anniversary of the terror attacks -- will pit mosque supporters against those who believe that the site shouldn't be so close to Ground Zero.

    The demonstrators will square off on opposite sides of Park Place, the site of the controversial Park51 center, after 9/11 commemorations conclude at noon in nearby Zuccotti Park, off Liberty Street.

    But no matter where they stand on the mosque issue, some people questioned the appropriateness of protesting on Sept. 11.

    "My own view -- irrespective how you feel about the mosque -- I don't think you have it that day. It's totally disrespectful," said Tom Acquaviva, 70, of Wayne, NJ, who lost his son, Paul, 29, an employee of Cantor Fitzgerald, in the attack.

    But Pamela Geller, a founder of Stop Islamization of America, which is organizing the anti-mosque rally, said 9/11 family members have begged her to soldier on.

    Geller said she has urged supporters to carry US flags rather than potentially inflammatory, slogan-emblazoned signs, to show they come in peace.

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    This won't bode well for a mosque will it....
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    The Left's unholy alliance with Muslims by using Islam as a battering ram to destroy America's liberties and freedoms while provoking blatant double standards is eroding this nations patience for tolerance on these issues.

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    History of Islam and How They Build Victory Mosques

    September 10, 2010



    The HISTORY OF ISLAM
    may hold answers to WHY it is so important for Moslems to build that GROUND ZERO MOSQUE…

    In 630
    , Muhammad led 10,000 Muslim soldiers into Mecca and turned the pagans’ most prominent spot, the Ka’aba, into the Masjid al-Haram Mosque.

    In 634,
    Rightly Guided Caliph Umar conquered Syria and turned the Christians’ most prominent spot, the Church of Job, famous for being visited by Saint Silva in the fourth century, into the Mosque of Job.

    In 637
    , Caliph Umar conquered Hebron and turned the second-most prominent spot in Judaism, the Cave of the Patriarchs, into the Ibrahim Mosque. (This was repeated by Saladin in 1188.)

    In 638, Muslim generals Amr ibn al-As and Khalid ibn al-Walid conquered Gaza and turned the prominent fifth-century Byzantine church into the Great Mosque of Gaza.

    In 638, Caliph Umar conquered Jerusalem.

    In 691, Caliph Al-Malik ordered the _Dome of the Rock_ built on the most prominent spot in Judaism, the Temple Mount, followed by Caliph Al-Walid building the Al-Aqsa Mosque there in 705.

    In 651, Muslims conquered Persia and turned Zoroastrian temples in Bukhara and Istakhr into mosques.

    In 706, after Muslims took Damascus from the Byzantine Empire, Caliph Al-Walid turned the prominent Orthodox Church of St. John the Baptist into the Umayyad Mosque.

    In 710, Gen. Muhammad bin Qasim conquered Pakistan, defiled the prominent Sun Temple in Multan, which house the great idol “sanam,” and erected a mosque.

    In 784, after the conquest of Spain, Emir Abd ar-Rahman turned the prominent Visigothic Christian Church of Saint Vincent into the Great Aljama Mosque of Cordoba.

    After the conquest of Egypt, Caliphs al-Mamun (813-833) and al-Hakim (996-1021) turned prominent Coptic Christian churches and Jewish synagogues in Cairo into mosques.

    In 831, Muslims conquered Palermo, Sicily, and Asad ibn al-Furat turned the prominent Church of Saint Mary of the Assumption into the Great Mosque of Bal ‘harm.

    In 1193, Muslims conquered Delhi, India, and Qutbuddin Aibak turned the Red Citadel in Dhillika, the most prominent spot of the last Hindu rulers, into the Qutb Minar Mosque.

    From 1250-1517, Mamluk Muslims controlled the Golan Heights and used the ancient Synagogue of Katzrin as a mosque.

    In 1387, Turkish Muslims conquered Thessaloniki and turned the Katholikon Monastery and the Church of Aghia Sophia, which housed the relics of Saint Gregorios Palamas, into mosques, as Symeon of Thessaloniki recorded:
    “The greatest number of the buildings of the churches fell to them, of which _the first_ was the Holy Church of the Savior. … These were trampled underfoot and the infidels rejoiced in them. … Most of the religious buildings in the city were despoiled, while altars were demolished and sacred things profaned.”

    On May 29, 1453, Sultan Mehmet II conquered Constantinople and turned the great Byzantine church, Hagia Sophia, into the Ayasofya Mosque.
    The _largest_ church in Christendom for a thousand years, the church’s four acres of gold mosaics was covered with whitewash and Quran verses.

    In 1458
    , Sultan Mehmet II conquered Athens and turned the Greeks’ most prominent spot, the Parthenon on Acropolis hill, into a mosque. When Venetian Gen.
    Francesco Morosini drove the Muslims out in 1687, a cannonball hit the gunpowder stored in the mosque, blowing it up. In the 15th century, Ottoman invaders turned Saint Clement’s Macedonian Orthodox Monastery in Plaosnik, Balkans, into the Imater Mosque.

    From 1519-1858
    , Muslim Mughal rulers gained control of India and turned over 2,000 Hindu temples into mosques, including demolishing the Temple of Ram Janmabhoomi in Ajodhya, the birthplace of Rama, and replacing it with the Babri Mosque.
    India’s Mughal Muslim ruler, Jahangir (1605-1627), wrote in Tujuk-i-Jahangiri: “At the city of Banaras [was] a temple. … I made it my plea for throwing down thee temple … and on the spot, with the very same materials, I erected the great mosque.”

    In 1543
    , Hayreddin Barbarossa’s 30,000 Muslim troops wintered in Toulon, France, and turned the prominent Toulon Cathedral into a mosque.

    In 1570
    , under Sultan Selim II Khan, Muslims conquered Paphos, Cyprus, and Gov. Mehmet Bey Ebubkir turned the prominent Christian church into the Great Mosque of Paphos.

    In 1571
    , Muslims invaded Famagusta, Cyprus, and turned Saint Nicolas Cathedral, a rare Gothic church, into the Lala Mustafa Pasha Mosque, and Saint Sophia Cathedral in Nicosia, constructed in 1228, into the Selimiye Mosque.

    In 1588
    , Sultan Murat III turned the Eastern Orthodox Church of Saint John the Forerunner in Constantinople into the Hirami Ahmet Pasha Mosque.

    In 1781
    , after having conquered the Old City of Acre, Ottoman Muslims turned the Roman Catholic Church built by Crusaders into the Jezzar Ahmet Pasha Mosque, where a hair from Muhammad’s beard is preserved.

    In 1923
    , Muslims expelled Greeks from Turkey and turned Orthodox churches into mosques. In World War II, Nazis allied with Bosnians and turned the prominent Artists’ Gallery Museum in Zagreb, Croatia, into a mosque.

    In the 1950s
    , Muslims expelled Jews from Arab lands and turned synagogues into mosques. Algerian Muslims warred against French colonial rule till France pulled out in 1962, after which the Cathedral of St. Philippe was turned into the Ketchaoua Mosque.
    Violence against Jews caused 30,000 to flee and the Great Synagogue of Oran was turned into the Mosque Abdullah Ben Salem.

    In 1974,
    Turkish Muslims invaded northern Cyprus, and prominent Greek Orthodox churches were turned into mosques.

    In 1981,
    Muslim immigrants to the Netherlands converted Amsterdam’s historic Catholic Sint-Ignatiuskerk into the Fatih Mosque, and a synagogue in The Hague into the Aksa Mosque.

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    Obama again speaks up for `Ground Zero mosque'

    As you know, it has become widely accepted that President Obama walked back his original support for the developers of Cordoba House, and in the process, made a hash of his message about it.

    Though he never originally flat out endorsed the Islamic center, his subsequent claim that he wouldn't comment on the "wisdom" of the project led many to conclude -- for varying motives -- that Obama had retracted his "support" for it.

    Others, meanwhile, argued that Obama's subsequent position was not really a brave one at all -- he was merely speaking up for the legal right of the project's builders to proceed, a position that's in line with that of a majority of voters.

    Today, however, Obama again weighed in on the project, and came very close to duplicating his original statement about it:
    I think I've been pretty clear on my position here, and that is, is that this country stands for the proposition that all men and women are created equal; that they have certain inalienable rights.

    One of those inalienable rights is to practice their religion freely. And what that means is that if you could build a church on a site, you could build a synagogue on a site, if you could build a Hindu temple on a site, then you should be able to build a mosque on the site.


    Now, I recognize the extraordinary sensitivities around 9/11.

    I've met with families of 9/11 victims in the past. I can only imagine the continuing pain and anguish and sense of loss that they may go through. And tomorrow we as Americans are going to be joining them in prayer and remembrance.

    But I go back to what I said earlier: We are not at war against Islam. We are at war against terrorist organizations that have distorted Islam or falsely used the banner of Islam to engage in their destructive acts.

    And we've got to be clear about that. We've got to be clear about that because if ... we're going to successfully reduce the terrorist threat, then we need all the allies we can get.
    Though he framed it as a conditional -- he used the word "if" -- Obama clearly stated that those who have the right to build on the site "should be able" to do so, and that we should respect that right in accordance with American values.

    That seems very close to what he said on the first day -- the statement everyone said he "walked back." At a minimum, it seems equivalent in tone.

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    Pakistani Plea: Make Obama supreme leader of Muslims

    Prez urged to offer Eid prayers at WTC site on 9/11 anniversary


    Posted: September 09, 2010
    8:45 pm Eastern

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    A Pakistani newspaper is quoting one of the country's ministers as stating he wants President Obama to offer Muslim prayers at Ground Zero and become the "Caliph," or ruler, of the Islamic nation.

    "The coming Eid would expectedly be observed on 9/11; this a golden opportunity for President Obama to offer Eid prayers at Ground Zero and become Amir-ul-Momineen or Caliph of Muslims. In this way, all the problems of Muslim World would be solved," stated Minister of State for Industries and Productions Ayatullah Durrani, according to Pakistan's The Nation newspaper.

    The newspaper reported Durrani called its offices and argued the Muslim world was in "dire need" of a supreme leader and that the position would earn Obama the exemplary titles of what Durrani termed "Mullah Barrack Hussain (sic) Obama," or "Allama Obama."

    "The time is approaching fast. Barrack Hussain Obama must act now. This is a golden opportunity, Muslims badly need it," added Durrani, according to the newspaper.

    Duranni reportedly stated that Obama becoming supreme Islamic leader would be the "key to success."

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    Eid, short for Eid Ul-Fitr, is a Muslim holiday that marks the end of Ramadan, the Islamic holy month of fasting.

    Ameer-ul-Momineen means the Islamic leader of the faithful, while Caliph refers to the head of the Caliphate, or Muslim nation ruled by Islamic law.

    Durrani could not be immediately reached by WND for comment.
    He is a member of the Pakistani People's Party. He holds a doctorate in physics and served as a member of Pakistan's Islamic Ideology Council in the 1990s.

    The Nation newspaper, meanwhile, bills itself as "the most credible of English Newspapers in Pakistan."

    An editor for The Nation, reached by WND at the newspaper's Islamabad office, could not immediately confirm which reporter obtained Durrani's quotes.

    "The story was published on our website and newspaper, so I have to say the quotes are real," the editor said.

    Duranni's purported quotes may add fuel to the belief – held by nearly 1 in 5 Americans, according to a recent Pew poll – that Obama is a Muslim.

    Obama was 'quite religious in Islam'

    Obama has repeatedly stated he is a Christian.

    The president's closest association with Christianity apparently comes from his nearly 20-year membership at Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ. The controversial pastor, Jeremiah Wright, married Barack and Michelle Obama and baptized their children.

    Trinity church is closely linked to the Nation of Islam, whose leader, Louis Farrakhan, has given numerous guest sermons at the church.

    Wright gave Farrakhan the church's "Empowerment" award. Both Obama and Farrakhan were featured on the cover of Wright's monthly Trumpet magazine.

    Wright is infamous for his sermons denouncing patriotism, whites and Jews.

    Obama's paternal side of the family, including his father, half-brothers and grandmother, are Muslims.

    Obama's faith was a central part of his 2008 presidential campaign. His campaign website contained the statement, "Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised as a Muslim, and is a committed Christian."

    But as WND reported, public records in Indonesia listed Obama as a Muslim during his early years, and a number of childhood friends claimed to media that Obama was once a mosque-attending Muslim.

    Obama's 2008 campaign wavered several times in response to reporters' queries regarding the senator's childhood faith.

    Commenting on a Los Angeles Times report quoting a childhood friend stating Obama prayed in a mosque, Obama's campaign released a statement explaining the senator "has never been a practicing Muslim."

    Widely distributed reports have noted that in January 1968 Obama was registered as a Muslim at Jakarta's Roman Catholic Fransiskus Assisi Primary School under the name Barry Soetoro. He was listed as an Indonesian citizen whose stepfather, identified on school documents as "L Soetoro Ma," worked for the topography department of the Indonesian Army.

    Catholic schools in Indonesia routinely accept non-Catholic students but exempt them from studying religion.

    After attending the Assisi Primary School, Obama was enrolled "also as a Muslim, according to documents" in the Besuki Primary School, a public school in Jakarta.

    Laotze blog, run by an American expatriate in Southeast Asia who visited the Besuki school, noted, "All Indonesian students are required to study religion at school, and a young 'Barry Soetoro,' being a Muslim, would have been required to study Islam daily in school. He would have been taught to read and write Arabic, to recite his prayers properly, to read and recite from the Quran and to study the laws of Islam."

    Indeed, in Obama's autobiography, "Dreams from My Father," he acknowledged studying the Quran and describes the public school as "a Muslim school."

    "In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell mother I made faces during Quranic studies," wrote Obama.

    The Indonesian media have been flooded with accounts of Obama's childhood Islamic studies, some describing him as a religious Muslim.

    Speaking to the country's Kaltim Post, Tine Hahiyary, who was principal of Obama's school while he was enrolled there, said she recalls he studied the Quran in Arabic.

    "At that time, I was not Barry's teacher, but he is still in my memory," claimed Tine, who is 80 years old.

    The Kaltim Post said Obama's teacher, named Hendri, had died.

    "I remember that he studied mengaji (recitation of the Quran)," Tine said, according to an English translation by Loatze.

    Mengaji, or the act of reading the Quran with its correct Arabic punctuation, is usually taught to more religious pupils and is not known as a secular study.

    Also, Loatze documented the Indonesian daily Banjarmasin Post interviewed Rony Amir, an Obama classmate and Muslim, who described Obama as "previously quite religious in Islam."

    "We previously often asked him to the prayer room close to the house," Amir said. "If he was wearing a sarong (waist fabric worn for religious or casual occasions) he looked funny."

    The Los Angeles Times, which sent a reporter to Jakarta, quoted Zulfin Adi, who identified himself as among Obama's closest childhood friends, stating the presidential candidate prayed in a mosque, something Obama's campaign claimed he never did.

    "We prayed, but not really seriously, just following actions done by older people in the mosque," said Adi. "But as kids, we loved to meet our friends and went to the mosque together and played."

    Friday prayers

    Obama's official presidential campaign site contained a page titled "Obama has never been a Muslim, and is a committed Christian." The page stated, "Obama never prayed in a mosque. He has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed Christian who attends the United Church of Christ."

    But the campaign changed its tune when it issued a "practicing Muslim" clarification to the Los Angeles Times.

    An article in March by the Chicago Tribune apparently disputed Adi's statements to the L.A. paper. The Tribune caught up with Obama's declared childhood friend, who now describes himself as only knowing Obama for a few months in 1970 when his family moved to the neighborhood. Adi said he was unsure about his recollections of Obama.

    But the Tribune found Obama did attend mosque.

    "Interviews with dozens of former classmates, teachers, neighbors and friends show that Obama was not a regular practicing Muslim when he was in Indonesia," states the Tribune article.

    It quotes Obama's former neighbors and third-grade teacher recalling how the young Obama "occasionally followed his stepfather to the mosque for Friday prayers."

    Daniel Pipes, director of the Middle East Forum, notes the Tribune article "cited by liberal blogs as refuting claims Obama is Muslim" actually implies Obama was an irregularly practicing Muslim and twice confirms Obama attended mosque services.

    In an interview with the New York Times, Obama described the Muslim call to prayer as "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset."

    The Times' Nicholos Kristof wrote Obama recited, "with a first-class [Arabic] accent," the opening lines of the Muslim call to prayer.

    The first few lines of the call to prayer state:

    Allah is Supreme!

    Allah is Supreme!

    Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!

    I witness that there is no god but Allah

    I witness that there is no god but Allah

    I witness that Muhammad is his prophet ...

    Some attention also has been paid to Obama's paternal side of the family, including his father and his brother, Roy.

    Writing in a chapter of his book describing his 1992 wedding, Obama stated: "The person who made me proudest of all was Roy.

    Actually, now we call him Abongo, his Luo name, for two years ago he decided to reassert his African heritage. He converted to Islam and has sworn off pork and tobacco and alcohol."

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    Afghans protest Koran burning for second day


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    Afghan protesters hold a banner near a fire during a demonstration against the planned burning of copies of the Koran by a small U.S. church, in Nangarhar province September 10, 2010. The banner reads: ''There is no God but Allah and Mohammad is the messenger of Allah''.
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    By Obaid Ormor
    PUL-E-ALAM, Afghanistan | Sat Sep 11, 2010 7:56am EDT

    PUL-E-ALAM, Afghanistan (Reuters) - Protestors clashed with Afghan security forces on Saturday, as thousands of Afghans demonstrated for a second day, despite a U.S. pastor suspending plans to burn copies of the Koran, officials said.
    The renewed protests in the war-torn country came after obscure Florida Pastor Terry Jones called off plans to burn copies of the Koran to mark the ninth anniversary of the September 11 attacks on the United States.
    The plans triggered outrage in Afghanistan and across the Muslim world with President Barack Obama warning the action could deeply hurt the United States abroad and endanger the lives of U.S. troops.
    Four demonstrators were seriously wounded when Afghan security forces opened fire as thousands of protestors tried to storm several government buildings in Pul-e-Alam, the capital of Logar province, south of Kabul, a provincial official said.
    "The security forces did not want any trouble but were forced to open fire when the protestors tried to force their way into the buildings," said Din Mohammad Darwish, the provincial governor's spokesman.
    Demonstrators also hurled stones at the buildings, including the department for women's affairs, causing some damage. Pul-e-Alam is located some 70km (40 miles) south of the capital, Kabul.
    "MORE BLOODY ATTACKS"
    Elsewhere in northeastern Badakhshan province, where a day earlier one protestor was shot dead, several thousand people took to the streets in three separate districts, provincial police chief Aqa Noor Kentuz said.
    "Demonstrators have come in their thousands to protest the Koran burning, though so far it is peaceful. Our police force is there to prevent any violence," he told Reuters.
    A spokesman for the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) said he was aware of two demonstrations in Badakhshan. He said no ISAF forces were involved and that the protests were not near any military bases.
    In a statement posted on their website, alemarah-iea.com/, the Taliban called on all Afghans to join the hardline Islamists in their fight against the Western forces and warned of more attacks if the Koran burning went ahead.
    "This stupid pastor who wants to avenge the September 11 attacks by burning the Koran will not only cause hundreds of bloody attacks in the United States but also throughout the world," the statement said.
    On Friday, a crowd estimated at 10,000, protested on the streets of Faizabad, the capital of Badakhshan, after special prayers for Eid al-Fitr, the end of the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan.
    One protester was shot dead when a smaller group attacked a German-run NATO base in Faizabad, hurling stones at the outpost. Protesters also gathered in the capital, Kabul, and in four other provinces, mainly in the west of the country.
    Similar protests over perceived desecration of Muslim symbols have led to dozens of deaths in Afghanistan in recent years, including after a Danish newspaper published a cartoon depicting the Prophet Mohammad in 2005.
    (Additional reporting by Ahmad Elham in KUNDUZ and Hamid Shalizi and Jonathon Burch in KABUL; Writing by Tim Gaynor and Jonathon Burch; Editing by Jonathan Thatcher)
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    I think it is God Damned riotously hilarious that these fucks are killing one another in "protest" over one, poor American Christian. Good. I hope they kill more of each other.
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    Forgetting 9-11, Koran Burning, and Freedom

    by David Yeagley · September 12, 2010 · 18 Comments · ShareThis

    Once upon a time, the United States government tried to force American Indians to become American. They made us change our clothes, our hair, our diet, our language, and even our religion. Those of us who were incorrigibly independent were forced to live on land ghettos. The government essentially kidnapped our children, put them into strict parochial schools, and were determined to make them “white” Christian Americans. Finally, in 1924, the government declared all Indians to be American citizens, whether we wanted to be or not.


    The famous 19th century photograph of Chiricahua Apache Indian children, four months after their coerced “imprisonment” at Carlisle, in Pennsylvania. And now American elites are trying to force Americans to become Muslim.


    I supposed America cared about being American back in those days. Today, the government seems just as determined to make Americans into non-Christian, athiestic automatons. Or worse, Americans are being forced to become Muslims. In spirit, that is, in fear of Islam, Americans are being forced to bow to the Satanic tyranny of a writhing form of some medieval Arab fanaticism.

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    Christian young people arrested for being Christian, in Dearborn, Michigan. June 18, 2010. Yep, out to enflame the poor Muslims.

    These are very sad times. Who can say how it all came about? Was it the anti-patriotism of international businessmen? The globalist tenor of world churches? The prophecy of Revelation 13? Or is it simply the fact that the squeeky wheel gets the oil? We all know, liberals and Muslims make all the noise. Liberals have invited Islam into the free world–to destroy freedom, of course. Tyranny is much more profitable to the elite.



    But, people who love freedom don’t love Islam. As Pamela Geller shows so clearly, the elite can never acknowledge the most obvious truths.

    Media blackouts are the norm. Look at her articles on what happened in New York this weekend at her “Rally of Remembrance.” Her site, Atlas Shrugs, is about the only place your see a record of the crowds that protested the arrogance and barbaric rudeness of Islam. The New York Post instead reported that an “unidentified man,” a “hate-filled fanatic,” had torn some pages out of a Koran and burned them, near the Ground Zero Mosque site. And more importantly, the Post reported the heroics–not of Americans, but of the police who openly denied the First Amendment rights to Americans.
    Cops pounced on one protester, 29-year-old Sebastain Bagby, when he held up a Koran and whipped out a lighter. The officers grabbed the items out of Bagby’s hand but didn’t arrest him.
    That’s the news, according to the great American media, not the 40 thousand of protesters in the streets. American media wants to show the Muslims world how noble American law inforcment is, so quick to protect the Satanic Verses of Islam.

    But, I must say, every remembrance of 9-11 that does not convince its participants that there is no place of Islam in the free world is a failed remembrance. In fact, it is worse that useless. It feeds the Muslim monstrosity in our midst. It strengthens Islam. Every thought of 9-11, especially the sorrow, the mourning, the “victimhood” of it all, only enflames the pride of Muslims. It aggrandizes their accomplishment as they themselves could never do.

    Burning the Koran? Why bother? Burn every Koran in America. What difference would it make? It will only make those who burn it victims of government persecution. Pastor Terry Jones proved that. It will soon be against the law to insult Islam in any way, shape, or form. This is what Islamic leaders are pushing for in Europe and in America. The maniacal Muslims of the world are the real enforcement Because of their mafia-style intimidation of violence, destruction, and death, the laws of the free world are changed to protect their Muslim values. This is the power of social immaturity in the world, the the liberal elite’s willingness to use it to change the world. The liberals despise freedom. They will put it to death, through any means.



    America tried to make Indians American. Now America is trying to make Americans Muslim. Talk about chickens coming home to roost! Only they’ve landed in the wrong coop. Muslims are not American.

    To all appearances, Islam has brought the world into a state of infantile impotence. The Satanic temper tantrums of Muslims have so frightened the freedom-lovers that laws have to be made against freedom! But, again, this is only the appearance. It is clear that those in power, the white liberal oedipals, simply want an end of freedom. Tyranny is more profitable to the few. Freedom lets too many have too much. Thus, liberalism is shown to be the antithesis of equality.

    Sovereignty is out the window when Islam is around. Patriotism is a ghost. America is already Islamic. We have a alien, lying, black African Communist Muslim in the White House. Are we surprised that we are required not to offend Muslims?

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    The Ground Zero Mosque recently applied for a $5 million federal grant from the 911 rebuilding fund set aside to rebuild lower Manhattan after the collapse of the World Trade Centers

    Developers of the controversial Park51 Islamic community center and mosque located two blocks from ground zero earlier this month applied for roughly $5 million in federal grant money set aside for the redevelopment of lower Manhattan after the attacks of September 11, according to two sources with direct knowledge of the matter.



    The former Burlington Coat Factory building that will make way for the Cordoba House (the 'Ground Zero Mosque') is seen in lower Manhattan on Jul. 29, 2010 in New York. (Photo: Timothy A. Clary, AFP / Getty Images)

    The audacious move stands to reignite the embers of a divisive debate that dominated headlines surrounding the ninth anniversary of the attacks this fall, say people vested in the issue.

    The application was submitted under a “community and cultural enhancement” grant program administered by the Lower Manhattan Redevelopment Corporation (LMDC), which oversaw the $20 billion in federal aid allocated in the wake of 9/11 and is currently doling out millions in remaining taxpayer funds for community development. The redevelopment board declined to comment on the application (as did officials from Park51), citing the continuing and confidential process of determining the grant winners.

    While news of the application has not previously been made public, developer Sharif El-Gamal outlined it in closed-door meetings, according to two individuals he spoke with directly. The thirtysomething, Brooklyn-born El-Gamal is motivated more by real estate ambition—one of these sources describes him as aspiring to be the next Donald Trump—than Islamic theology or ideology.

    Park51’s developers clearly have a legal right to apply for the grant. A list of Frequently Asked Questions that accompanied the application specifically states that religious organizations can make funding requests for capital projects “as long as the request is for a facility or portion of a facility that is dedicated to non-religious activities or uses.”

    According to an individual familiar with the Park51 application, it requests funds to cover a number of cultural, educational and community development aspects of the proposed 13-story building—but the prayer room is excluded from the grant application.

    But the question on whether they could have is trumped by the question of whether they should have.

    But the question on whether they could have is trumped by the question of whether they should have. The stated aim of the Park51 developers is to provide a community center for lower Manhattan’s 4,000 Muslim residents. Their own website explained that they understood the need to “appeal to the undecided, and change the conversation about Muslims in America.” It’s pretty clear that this play for federal dollars will generate none of that, starting with the lack of disclosure or community consultation before developers submitted their application, which was due November 5.

    "If Imam Feisal and his retinue want know why they're not trusted, here's yet another reason,” says Irshad Manji, author of The Trouble with Islam and director of the Moral Courage Project at NYU, when I asked her about the grant proposal. “The New Yorkers I speak with have questions about Park51. Requesting money from public coffers without engaging the public shows a staggering lack of empathy—especially from a man who says he's all about dialogue."

    As a witness to the 9/11 attacks and someone who currently lives in the revived neighborhood, I can tell you that anger over the Park51 project was more intense outside the community than within it.

    After all, the local community board approved the Park51 development in two separate votes—and the right of the project to proceed was honorably affirmed by Mayor Michael Bloomberg against a torrent of criticism this fall. Politicians across the country tried to turn the development into a partisan political football, including notable ads from Florida’s Governor-elect Rick Scott (“Obama’s Mosque”) and the newly elected North Carolina Republican Congresswoman Renee Elmers.

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    Ground Zero Mosque Wins in Court

    'Ground Zero Mosque' Clears Legal Hurdle to Build
    By RESHMA KIRPALANI, ABC News
    July 13, 2011


    The backers of the controversial "Ground Zero Mosque" have won a court fight clearing the way for them to build the mosque and community center complex two blocks from the site of the 9/11 terror attack.

    In a decision on Friday that was made public today, New York State Supreme Justice Paul Feinman dismissed a lawsuit by former firefighter Timothy Brown who argued that New York City was wrong to allow the destruction of a 150-year-old building to make way for the Islamic center.

    The ex-firefighter who was among those who responded to the terror attack on the World Trade Center said the old building had been struck by debris during the collapse of the twin towers and was a "living representative of the heroic structures that commemorate the events of that day."


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    'Ground Zero Mosque' Clears Legal Hurdle to Build

    By RESHMA KIRPALANI
    July 13, 2011

    The backers of the controversial "Ground Zero Mosque" have won a court fight clearing the way for them to build the mosque and community center complex two blocks from the site of the 9/11 terror attack.

    In a decision on Friday that was made public today, New York State Supreme Justice Paul Feinman dismissed a lawsuit by former firefighter Timothy Brown who argued that New York City was wrong to allow the destruction of a 150-year-old building to make way for the Islamic center.

    The ex-firefighter who was among those who responded to the terror attack on the World Trade Center said the old building had been struck by debris during the collapse of the twin towers and was a "living representative of the heroic structures that commemorate the events of that day."

    In a 15-page decision Feinman wrote, "Mr. Brown's claim that his ability to commemorate will be injured, is not yet recognized under the law as a concrete injury that can establish standing. Such an injury, although palpable to Brown, is immeasurable by a court."

    The American Center for Law and Justice, a conservative legal group which filed the lawsuit on Brown's behalf, said they plan to appeal the ruling.



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    "This decision fails to give appropriate consideration to first responders and others who risked their lives and lost loved ones on Sept. 11," ACLJ attorney Brett Joshpe said in a statement.

    The ACLJ "remain confident that this mosque will never rise above Ground Zero."

    Organizers of the project, officially called Park 51, declined to comment.

    Brown and the ACLJ were appealing a ruling last summer by the city's Landmarks Preservation Commission which decided to allow a 150-year-old Park Place building to be razed to make way for the center.

    Park 51 has been a source of national controversy since its unveiling last May. Opponents as well as supporters demonstrated at Ground Zero in reaction to the commission's decision to allow the mosque last August.

    President Obama was drawn into the controversy when he initially endorsed the mosque.

    "As a citizen, and as president, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as anyone else in this country," Obama said at a White House ceremony last summer that marked the Islamic holy month of Ramadan.

    "That includes the right to build a place of worship and a community center on private property in lower Manhattan in accordance with local laws and ordinances."

    But in a visit to the Gulf Coast, Obama later dialed back saying that he supported the Muslims community's right to build the mosque, but was not sure it was a good idea to build so close to Ground Zero.

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    July 21, 2011
    Islamic Supremacism Trumps Christianity at Ground Zero


    By Pamela Geller

    While New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg works in anxious haste to build the cultural obscenity that is the Ground Zero mosque, the iconic St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church, which was built in 1916 and destroyed in the attack on the World Trade Center towers by Muslim terrorists, remains vanquished, unable to rebuild.

    Bloomberg is lobbying for 9/11 taxpayer funds for the Islamic supremacist grifters behind the Ground Zero mosque, but St. Nicholas Church is in purgatory ten years after the worst day in modern American history.

    Perhaps St. Nicholas Church should claim that it is a mosque -- then Bloomberg and New York City Council Speaker Christine Quinn would probably pour the cement for its foundation.

    Remember: the New York Daily News reported last December that "Mayor Bloomberg's top deputies went to great lengths to help those trying to build a mosque at Ground Zero -- even drafting a letter to the community board for them."

    After a Freedom of Information Act request from Judicial Watch, New York City officials released "a flurry of emails between its brass and Feisal Abdul Rauf, the imam pushing to build a mosque near the sensitive site, and his supporters." It was worse than we imagined. The release of these documents, emails, and various exchanges between Mayor Bloomberg's office and the radical Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf and his motley crew of Islamic supremacists showed evidence of collusion, inappropriate political support for the Ground Zero mega-mosque, and favoritism given to the project.

    Rauf is an open proponent of Islamic law, Sharia, with its oppression of women, stonings, and amputations. He is a prominent member of the Perdana organization, a leading funder of the jihad flotilla launched against Israel last year by the genocidal Islamic terror group, IHH. And he's a slumlord and grifter: Rauf snagged more than $2 million in public financing to renovate low-income apartments. He took the money, never did the renovations, and forced good people to live with vermin and dilapidation.

    So why did the mayor apparently break ethical rules for a slumlord with radical ties, whose buildings were placed in receivership? And why isn't he working just as energetically for the rebuilding of St. Nicholas Church? Technically, he has no jurisdiction over the Port Authority, which is blocking the rebuilding of the church, but he could speak out more energetically for it -- and meanwhile, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo and New York State Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver could do a great deal to help the church's cause -- but in sharp contrast to Bloomberg's work for the mosque, they haven't done a thing for the church.

    Cuomo could order Port Authority Executive Director Chris Ward to stop blocking the church's reconstruction. He hasn't. Silver hasn't done a thing, either. Yet if they support the Ground Zero mosque, they should at least extend the same level of support to this church that was on the site for 85 years.

    I spoke with Evan C. Lambrou, who is a former editor of the National Herald, the country's oldest and largest Greek-American newspaper, and a distinguished graduate of Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology in Boston. He explained that it was "wrong for the Port Authority to take the church's original property for its purposes, in exchange for another parcel nearby; extract the church's good faith by promising to actually deliver the promised new parcel; and then not make good on that promise. In short, the Port Authority got the church to do something it didn't really want to do by promising the church something else instead, and then refused to give what was promised. That's just not right. It's morally reprehensible, in fact."

    Yes, it is, and it gets worse. Lambrou continued: "It's very disgraceful that the Port Authority has compelled the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese to file a federal lawsuit just to rebuild one of our churches. And it's simply astounding that people work themselves into such a frenzy about Park 51; that so many elected officials have rushed to defend development of an Islamic community center two blocks away from Ground Zero; and that virtually no one cares about the Port Authority's plans to exclude a Christian church from Ground Zero altogether."

    Lambrou skewered the double standard: "This country was founded on Judeo-Christian ethics and principles, so if elected officials are going to support religious freedom for Muslims in America, they should do the same for one of this country's Christian minorities."

    "That's why I'm disappointed," Lambrou said, "in Governor Cuomo and Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver." He sent them both letters and emails, but their response "wasn't even lukewarm." He received "one feel-good call from a press officer at the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation assuring me that the "Cuomo Administration cares." And as for Silver, one of his aides told Lambrou that he was "concerned" about the church. That was it. Lambrou sent them both information from the American Center for Law and Justice that pointed out that in refusing to rebuild the church, the Port Authority had violated three constitutional amendments. Nonetheless, Lammbrou said, "neither Mr. Cuomo nor Mr. Silver have voiced their support for the church publicly. I have urged them to do so several times, and they still haven't yet."

    Lambrou told me: "This is both a moral and a Constitutional matter. Is it really that difficult for them to release a substantive public statement of support for rebuilding this church? Is it really so hard for them to tell the Port Authority to do the right thing for the church?" When I asked him if the lawsuit that the church had filed against various New York officials might be causing the silence, he responded: "This is a no-brainer, and the lawsuit is no excuse. Anyway, the lack of response to my concerns has been deeply disheartening. Orthodox Christian rights are being violated by a powerful public entity under their watch, and the people who should be defending us are doing nothing about it."

    While those of us who oppose the Islamic supremacist mosquestrosity at Ground Zero are routinely called bigots, it is St. Nicholas Church that is encountering actual bigotry. Lambrou said, "I never thought I would find myself contending with this kind of bigotry in 21st Century America, and I feel completely betrayed that those who are in a position to reverse the problem have done nothing about it. That indicates they're actually willing to relegate this innocent and historic house of worship to oblivion and, in so doing, perpetuate the tragedy of 9/11."

    They are, but we aren't. Stop the Islamization of lower Manhattan. Stand with us against the Ground Zero Mosque and for St. Nicholas Church on September 11 at our Freedom Rally at Ground Zero.

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    I think people are going to finally "understand" why there is constant and bitter strife in the Middle East soon enough.

    That shit is coming to our shores thanks to asswipes like Bloomberg and Obama.
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    Ground Zero Mosque Opens for Business

    Posted by Ryan Mauro Bio ↓ on Sep 21st, 2011



    On September 21 at 6:30 PM, the Ground Zero Mosque will open its doors to show a photo exhibit in its community space. Park51 is hoping to discourage its opponents by declaring an early victory in spite of its recent embarrassments and setbacks. This grand opening does not mean that the fight is over. The project still has a long way to go until completion.

    The exhibit, called “NYChildren,” will showcase the work of Danny Goldfield, who photographed children in the city originating from 171 countries around the world. About $70,000 was raised in less than two months for the temporary community space through KickStarter.com. Over 700 invitations have been distributed for the grand opening, and visitors to Park51’s website are registering to attend now. The exhibit will be up for three months. The site will be open Monday through Friday, 12:30 p.m. to 9:00 pm beginning on Thursday.

    The photo exhibit is not the Ground Zero Mosque’s only attraction. It will have various classes including yoga and Brazilian martial arts, discussion groups, arts programs and, of course, a section for Muslim prayer services.

    Religious services have been held in the old Burlington Coat factory since 2009. The planned prayer space will accomodate over 2,000 attendees, rivaling St. Patrick’s Cathedral. Park51 claims the site is a cultural center, not a mosque, because it will eventually have a gymnasium, swimming pool, art galleries, and other non-religious facilities.

    “It is ridiculous that Park51 tries to say this is anything but a mosque. Churches have gyms, classes and other facilities as part of their buildings, and they could never get away with saying it is anything but a church,” Martin Mawyer, president of the Christian Action Network, told FrontPage.

    His organization held a screening tour of the organization’s film, “Sacrificed Survivors: The Untold Story of the Ground Zero Mosque,” in New York City public parks around the tenth anniversary of 9/11. Congressman Allen West also hosted a screening of the film in Congress on September 7, prompting Rep. Keith Ellison​ to promote another event on “Islamophobia.”

    Park51 recently had a setback when an application for a $5 million federal grant was rejected. If the group had its way, taxpayer money would have paid for the Ground Zero Mosque’s “domestic violence prevention, Arabic and other foreign language classes, programs and services for homeless veterans, two multi-cultural art exhibits and immigration services.” Park51 is also far from its original fundraising goal of $100 million. In 2011, it raised $7.5 million and it hopes to raise $15 million next year.Now, Park51 is talking about scaling back its plans. One of the co-founders, Nour Mousa, said, “Maybe [the community] doesn’t need all that space…We’re not going to build anything that’s not needed.” Sharif el-Gamal, the developer, refuses to move the location but says, “If the community only wants four or five floors, it’s going to be four or five floors.”

    The Ground Zero Mosque continues to suffer blows to its public image. The top financial backer, Hisham Elzanaty, is being sued by Allstate Insurance for $5.1 million. He is accused of orchestrating a “highly developed and sophisticated kickback scheme.” State Farm is also suing him for $1.9 million, and Geico for $1.7 million. He also donated to the Holy Land Foundation, a front for Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood, in 1999. This only adds to the significant concern over the sources of the money behind the project. Even supporters of the Ground Zero Mosque may be convinced to withhold their donations because of this development.

    Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, the original “face” of Park51, also showed how moderate he really is during a speech he gave earlier this year where he said that criticism of Islam shouldn’t be protected speech. “I believe that the insulting or mocking of others’ religious symbols, icons, prophets, etc. should not fall within the realm of free speech,” he said. The statement is a reminder of the extremist beliefs and affiliations of those tied to the Ground Zero Mosque.

    Work on the rest of the Ground Zero Mosque may not begin for another five years. Neither side has won the battle. The partial opening of the site will not silence those who find its location to be offensive, and it will not put the questions about Park51 to rest. If anything, the grand opening will bring the issue back to the forefront.

    The controversy over the Ground Zero Mosque will not go away any time soon. The proposal continues to spark outrage, and its opponents continue to be accused of having an anti-Muslim agenda even though 35 percent of American-Muslims feel that it should not be constructed. Park51 can celebrate that one section is now open to the public, but if the Park51 group thinks that the opposition will consider the battle lost, then it is sorely mistaken.

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    So when Snopes and others "debunked" the mosque that was going to open on the 10th anniversary of 9/11 they were only off by 10 days.

    These islamic cocksuckers were probably pressured to hold off 10 days.
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    25 years from now when they Islamic call for prayer rings out in lower Manhattan over the ashes of islam greatest victory, the truth will have been long lost and the dates will be adjusted to fit the narrative.
    "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat."
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    If you're going to plagiarize an article to appear as a statement, why not post the entire article? I get it, you want to spam your business but in a subtle way.

    Besides, I think the opinion is utter bullshit. "Only non-violence has the power to remove terrorism from the world". No, the only way to remove terrorism from the world is to exterminate the human race. Violence can and indeed will eliminate violence.

    Here's a question for ya smart guy: How many more terrorist attacks did Hafas assad
    get after his operation at Hama? Go ahead, look it up. We'll wait.


    Here's the rest.
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    http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=740

    The language of discourse and debate, the language of persuasion and polemic used by governments, by the media, and by people from all walks of life, now focuses on terrorism. Such language in turn focuses on fear, reprisal, border protection, militarism, and weapons of mass destruction. It fuels and is fuelled by a climate of suspicion and xenophobia.
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    Yet, says Buddhist monk Thich Nhat Hanh, the root of terrorism "cannot be located by the military. Bombs and missiles cannot reach it, let alone destroy it. The root of terrorism is misunderstanding, hatred and violence. Terror is in the human heart. We must remove this from the heart. Only with the practice of deep listening and compassion can the root of terror be transformed and removed. Darkness cannot be dissipated with more darkness. Only light can dissipate darkness."

    September 21, the International Day of Peace, is a time for us to pause, to shift our focus - and our language - and strive to fulfil the United Nations' tangible goal, that of establishing a 24-hour global cease-fire and commitment to non-violence.

    If we can create even one day of peace, perhaps then in our lives, in our communities and in the larger world we can create a culture of peace, one step at a time. If we can create one day of peace by looking deeply into our own hearts, perhaps we can transform and remove the terror that lies embedded there. If we can create one day of peace by refraining from the discourse of fear, blame and reprisal, perhaps we can recover the language of dialogue.

    This September 21 we can find comfort and direction in the words of the encyclical Pacem in Terris written by Pope John XXIII during the height of the Cold War and nuclear threat. Forty years on the Vatican has decided to republish this remarkable letter on peace because of the pervading and debilitating climate of fear in the world at large.

    John concludes his encyclical with the prayer: "May Christ inflame the desires of all people to break through the barriers which divide them, to strengthen the bonds of mutual love, to learn to understand one another and to pardon those who have done them wrong. Through his power and inspiration, may all people welcome each other to their hearts as brothers and sisters, and may the peace they long for ever flower and ever reign among them." (paragraph 171)

    May the peace all people of good will long for "flower and ever reign among us", and may our hearts continue to go out to those whose lives have been irreparably scarred by the events of September 11, the Bali bombing and other acts of hate-filled destruction.
    "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat."
    -- Theodore Roosevelt


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