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    Wolverines surrender to China?

    ‘Red Dawn’ brass said to yield to market forces

    Patrick Swayze, C. Thomas Howell and Charlie Sheen (from left) battled Soviet invaders in their hometown in the original “Red Dawn” released in 1984. The remake was set to have China invading U.S. soil but the invaders will now be North Koreans.By Michael Warren
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    “Red Dawn 2011” will have North Korea invading the U.S. instead of China.


    In 1984, MGM released “Red Dawn,” a movie that depicted a Soviet invasion of the United States and the subsequent defense mounted by a group of rifle-wielding Colorado teens. With a cast of young unknowns and the MPAA’s first PG-13 rating, the film was one of the top grossing movies of the year. Directed and co-written by John Milius, an avowed gun enthusiast, “Red Dawn” featured so much gunfire that some called it the “most violent movie ever made.” Between the gun violence and the supposed right-wing undertones (or overtones?), it was one of the more controversial movies of its time, a cult hit of the Reagan era.


    It was practically preordained, then, that Hollywood would greenlight a remake of “Red Dawn.” The new film is due out later this year, but MGM’s attempt to retell the story in a post-Soviet world, this time with Red China as the aggressor, is already facing its own controversy.


    According to movie blogger Jason Apuzzo, who saw an advance screening last summer, this version of “Red Dawn” depicts the Chinese army invading the West Coast of the United States in an apropos mission to collect on the debt we owe. Some young Americans aren’t willing to give up so easily, and the Seattle-based band of “Wolverines” launches their counterattack in the name of freedom. Mr. Apuzzo, founder of the film blog Libertas, writes that the cut he saw was a “stirring, highly patriotic ode to America and its freedoms.”


    So … why is Hollywood meddling with what sounds like a surefire hit in the heartland?


    MGM, which filed for bankruptcy last year, has partnered with distributors wary of isolating themselves from what they consider a growing market for American movies in the People's Republic of China. The Los Angeles Times reports that producers are “digitally erasing Chinese flags and military symbols” from the movie and replacing them with references to an invasion by North Korea, “an isolated country where American media companies have no dollars at stake.”


    A source close to the production of “Red Dawn” says these changes make the plot more credible and sophisticated, noting that the filmmakers consulted experts at the departments of State and Defense as well as non-governmental think tanks. True or not, MGM badly needs a blockbuster, and the Chinese market is one they can’t afford to ignore.


    The creative changes to “Red Dawn” may just be good business, according to veteran Hollywood producer Doug Urbanski, who contends there’s nothing political about the way studios tinker with the movies they produce. “Hollywood is not run by Madonna, Sean Penn, and Alec Baldwin — it’s run by serious businesspeople,” says Mr. Urbanski, an unabashed conservative and occasional actor who turned in a memorable cameo in “The Social Network” as Harvard president and former Obama economic adviser Larry Summers.


    “If I were in a situation where the Chinese offered me money to make movies there, would I take the money? The answer is no,” Mr. Urbanski says. But, he says, studios have a moral responsibility to make good on their promises to investors.


    Two other producers often associated with the handful of out-of-the-closet Hollywood conservatives are also unsurprised and unconcerned by the sacrifice here of creative choices to the profit motive. “This sounds like an economic issue,” says Joel Surnow, the creator of the hit Fox series “24.” “[China] would be a bad market to alienate.”


    Writer-director-producer Cyrus Nowrasteh says foreign sales are always a concern for studios and distributors. His 2008 film “The Stoning of Soraya M.” was banned in Iran, but Mr. Nowrasteh says it was also not screened in some European countries like France, Italy, or Germany because distributors there were concerned the film’s brutal portrayal of Islamic fundamentalism might incite riots.


    The “Red Dawn” remake isn’t the only recent entertainment product to receive a cleansing of all references Chinese. The recently released video game Homefront, coincidentally written by Mr. Milius, was also to feature an invading Chinese army, according to gaming blog Kokatu. That was changed, much earlier in the production process, to North Korea as well. All this, China experts say, is part of an attempt to open up the world’s largest market through conciliation.


    “The biggest problem for Hollywood in China right now is that Beijing places strict limits on the number of foreign films that are allowed to be legally imported into the country,” says Kelley Currie, a senior fellow at the Project 2049 Institute. The industry wants to make and sell movies there, and there’s a prevailing idea among studio execs that we sit at the cusp of China’s long-awaited opening.


    The hope of an open China is a major reason why studios and distributors are wary of productions that could embarrass the communist regime, including any depiction of China’s known atrocities. Besides a handful of movies about Tibet, Hollywood has done a good job of avoiding making things uncomfortable for Beijing. Although there is ample material from recent history, from the Tiananmen Square massacre to the plight of the Falun Gong movement, the studios seem unwilling to rock the proverbial boat, lest China move even further out of reach.


    There’s little indication, though, that China is getting any closer to “opening up” in the way that Hollywood hopes. “On free speech, on human rights, [the Chinese] are all going in the wrong direction,” says Ethan Gutmann of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. “This is a massive blindspot.”


    And unfortunately for MGM, the sidestep on “Red Dawn” will probably be a fruitless endeavor. “This movie is unlikely to get past the censors” in China, Ms. Currie says, even with the North Korean switcheroo. The changes won’t get Hollywood any closer to the mythical Chinese market. Instead, American audiences will get a scrubbed version of what had been anticipated as mindless but politically resonant fun.


    Meanwhile, the compelling stories of China’s victims will go untold. And everybody loses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    I swear I just saw that commercial last night though.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Donaldson View Post
    I've seen that commercial a dozen or more times in the past few months.

    Who said it was "banned"?

    Remember though, I don't have cable. I have only Fox News at work through the computer feeds.
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    I've seen it a small handful of times on FNC. I thought I had posted about it in the China forum not too long ago.
    With everyone's input, the ban was obviously not at FNC...just the other major networks.

    Even though I watch FOX regularly, I guess I'm the only one who hadn't seen it.

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    Well, I can imagine it was someone OTHER than Fox. I bet you WOULD NOT see that one on CNN.

    It is after all, the Communist News Network.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Donaldson View Post
    MGM, which filed for bankruptcy last year, has partnered with distributors wary of isolating themselves from what they consider a growing market for American movies in the People's Republic of China.
    You mean the market with the highest rate of video and software piracy? That market?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Donaldson View Post
    A source close to the production of “Red Dawn” says these changes make the plot more credible and sophisticated, noting that the filmmakers consulted experts at the departments of State and Defense as well as non-governmental think tanks.
    Yeah, because nothing says credible like an invasion by a country that feeds its people tree bark soup.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Donaldson View Post
    ... The industry wants to make and sell movies there, and there’s a prevailing idea among studio execs that we sit at the cusp of China’s long-awaited opening.

    The hope of an open China is a major reason why studios and distributors are wary of productions that could embarrass the communist regime, including any depiction of China’s known atrocities. ...
    Anyone else think its funny that a country we've had nearly unrestricted trade with for almost 2 decades in hopes of "opening them up" still isn't considered open?

    What is the definition of insanity again?

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    And unfortunately for MGM, the sidestep on “Red Dawn” will probably be a fruitless endeavor. “This movie is unlikely to get past the censors” in China, Ms. Currie says, even with the North Korean switcheroo. The changes won’t get Hollywood any closer to the mythical Chinese market. Instead, American audiences will get a scrubbed version of what had been anticipated as mindless but politically resonant fun.
    File that under "no shit".

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    Hey, I just report. You decide. LOL

    I saw that article this morning and found that it really pissed me off for some reason.
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    I probably should have removed the " Originally Posted By" tags from the quotes. LOL!

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    Red Dawn Will Finally Dawn
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    September 26, 2011

    The long-delayed remake of Red Dawn will finally get a release.

    The L.A. Times reports that the film, which has sat on the shelf since 2009 because of studio MGM's financial troubles, will be released in the U.S. by FilmDistrict.

    Based on the 1980s cheese classic which depicted a domestic invasion by the Russians and the American teens that formed a resistance group, the new film originally featured a Chinese invasion force. But that led to fears that the censor-prone Chinese government wouldn't allow the release of the film, so the bad guys were digitally altered to be North Korean.

    The film is expected to hit screens some time in 2012. Thor's Chris Hemsworth stars.

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    Oh noes. We're getting invaded by the N. Koreans and their Somali pirate troop transports.

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    So this turd is now getting ready to crown?

    If they can't even get the villains rights, this chud is going to get draped across our heads while they tell us it's chocolate.
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    This feels like a huge disinformation campaign from the Left aimed at silencing any voice capable of waking up Americans to any real Axis threats.

    Both Homefront and now Red Dawn were to be released with China as the main enemy. Interestingly in the last part of the Homefront their were Soviet SU47 chasing down our Air Force.



    Why would MGM release Red Dawn in it's current form knowing it would probably suffer the same fate?

    They've waited this long, why not wait for a Conservative Administration with a tougher stance toward China to release it in.

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    Only a year away, It won't be worth the wait.


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    http://screenrant.com/red-dawn-remak...e-tmal-140969/


    Red Dawn Remake Finally Gets A Release Date

    Nov 24, 2011 by Terry Mallinder

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    At long last, the ‘Red Dawn’ remake is being prepped for an invasion of movie theaters, with a November 2012 release date finally set.



    The long stagnating Red Dawn remake looks set to finally see the light of day, with a designated release date on the horizon. According to Box Office Mojo, the film will hit screens on November 2, 2012 – three years after filming wrapped.
    A big black cloud has been hanging over Red Dawn in the form of the MGM bankruptcy saga, but, as reported here in September, independent distributor FilmDistrict struck a deal to finally get the film into cinemas, not matter how long it takes.


    The film is the first foray into directing by former stuntman Dan Bradley, who once donned the hockey mask to play Jason Voorhees in Jason Lives: Friday The 13th: Part VI.
    The movie is, of course, a remake of that cult classic from 1984 starring the late, great Patrick Swayze and a more innocent-looking Charlie Sheen (in his film debut) as the leaders of a bunch of teenagers who fight back when their small town in Colorado is taken over by Communist troops from the Soviet Union and Cuba.
    It was made when the world braced for all-out warfare between the US and the USSR, at the height of the Cold War – when such an invasion on American soil didn’t seem that ludicrous. Nowadays it is a different story.
    While the Red Dawn remake will follow very closely in the footsteps of the original, this time around it is the North Koreans doing the invading of the only genuine superpower left on the planet – after filmmakers had originally slated the Chinese as the villains of the piece, but changed their minds in order to give the movie more appeal in the increasingly lucrative market of China.
    The likes of Thor himself Chris Hemsworth (taking on Swayze’s role), Adrianne Palicki (briefly, Wonder Woman), Josh Peck, Isabel Lucas and Josh Hutcherson will be doing the retaliating as the American teens.
    Upon release on November 2, 2012, Red Dawn will be pitted against the comedy My Mother’s Curse and Pixar’s animated Wreck-It Ralph.
    Time will tell if Red Dawn is worth the wait. But at least it’s not yet another alien invasion movie. Right?
    Source: Box Office Mojo via Collider
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    Hugh Laurie Signs On For Juicy ‘Robocop’ Role
    June 13, 2012

    What's the first thing you do when you wrap the most popular television show on the planet? You sign on to play an evil corporate head in a big budget Hollywood remake. That's what you do.

    Hugh Laurie, 53, has just agreed to play the CEO of Omni Corp in the remake of 1987's "RoboCop."And while audiences are well accustomed to Laurie playing a grump, they may be surprised to see him as someone who is evil-to-the-core.

    First played by Oscar-nominated Irish actor Daniel O'Herlihy, the evil CEO role will yet again belong to a U.K.-born actor. (Laurie is from Oxford, England.)

    Laurie's long-running television show "House," also the name of his dark-yet-brilliant lead character, ended in May. The show, watched by 81.8 million people in 66 countries, becoming the most-watched television program in the world in 2008, won five Emmys during its eight-year run and earned Laurie two Golden Globes, two SAG awards, and other awards except for an Emmy for his performance. (Perhaps he will finally pick up his Emmy this year -- this is his one last chance!)

    "RoboCop" is due in theaters next year and has an approximate budget of $100 million.

    The role of the infamous cyborg RoboCop, first made famous by Peter Weller in the film franchise that endured through the early '90s and even spawned a television series, will be played by Swedish-born actor Joel Kinnaman -- who currently stars in AMC's "The Killing."

    Oscar-nominated actors Gary Oldman and Samuel L. Jackson have also signed on to the film as has Abbie Cornish. Oldman plays the scientist who creates RoboCop, Norton, Jackson plays a media mogul (we hear he's a good guy) and Cornish plays Norton's wife.

    Laurie also stars in war drama "Mr. Pip," based on a best-selling novel of the same name. Its release date is not yet determined.

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    Review: RED DAWN (2012)

    DEAR STUDIO PEOPLE: I know this film does not open until NOVEMBER 21st 2012, but I have yet to hear of any embargo so here we go. (if you need to talk to me you can email me at Tyscruggs@gmail.com)

    So if you’re reading this, you probably fit into one of three categories:

    1) FINALLY! SOMETHING ABOUT RED DAWN!

    2) I forgot about this, bet it sucks.

    3) They remade Red Dawn?

    Well, I saw it (6 months in advance) and is it any good, despite the complications it’s faced?

    I was pretty pumped for this movie, I had been following it for a few years now and I’m super glad to have seen it.

    You may not be aware this film exists, and that’s totally okay. This film has been a whole whirlwind of unfortunate events. It all began in 2009 (Yes, 2009) when this film went into production. First, it’s a remake of an 80s movie people generally like and don’t really want to be remade. Second, after production, they had to digitally change their antagonists from the Chinese to North Korea (which angered/confused many) because China caught wind of this film and sorta threatened a real Red Dawn. And third, this film was scheduled to be released in 2010 but because of the Chinese altercation, and MGM going bankrupt, it has still yet to see the light of day (and I’m still concerned it might not even if it does open in theaters November 21st, 2012).

    Which sucks because this movie is actually alright-to-pretty good.

    The film stars Chris Hemsworth (Pre-Thor), Josh Peck (Post-Drake and Josh) and Josh Hutchinson (Pre-Hunger Games) and focuses on Jed and Matt Eckert (Hemsworth and Peck) leading a pack of willful teenagers in suburban warfare with North Korea (in association with the Russia a little bit). This take on the story is obviously modernized but it doesn’t really show it. There is a lengthy news show montage that explains that Europe and America have essentially gone bankrupt with Asia and North Korea in association with some other countries wish to stop the evil Americans from being so darn greedy and they’re ‘here to help’.

    In the original, the iconic invasion scene takes place at school, whereas in the remake it takes place one morning in Spokane, WA. I honestly don’t know which one I prefer. One is chilling because it’s so random, but the other is terrifying as well because of the suburban setting. We see families look up in the sky in confusion at the parachutes and planes and that sight still scares the crap out of me.

    And as not to give away a lot (as if you don’t know what happens anyway) we see a lot of action and it truly kicks ass. I’m 17, so seeing a lot of high school students (and a marine) repel against an invading army is super cool.

    Oh, I forgot to mention that, Jed Eckert (Hemsworth) is a recently retuned Iraq vet. He still plays leader and teaches the kids the ways of guerilla warfare, but it was sort of a downer to see a grown-up in the middle of the action (even if he was cool as heck and struck up a lot of brotherly drama).

    All in all, there are enough changes to make the film worth seeing, namely the ending which I actually prefer to the original. (SPOILER ALERT?!?! They leave it more open ended as opposed to the epilogue in the original /SPOILER!?!?!!?)

    Some observations:

    -Despite being shot in 2009, the film is not dated at all. Which is good.

    - There was not one mention of the word ‘communism’ or ‘World War III’ (which sort of leads into my next point).

    - The violence is there, but I think The Hunger Games might be more gory. There are some… how do I say, ‘wuss outs’ in the film that make it limp a bit.

    - If they market this right (or at all), they may just make an action star out of Josh Peck (who gives a marvelous performance and deserves this breakout role).

    - The film KICKS ASS

    - This is the movie BATTLE: LOS ANGELES wishes it was.

    RED DAWN (2012) — 3.5/5

    Although there are some strong performances, intense action and patriotism to go around, the RED DAWN remake slightly falls victim to downplaying the politics, intensity, and fear that made the original stick in the back of our minds.

    Red Dawn (probably) opens in theaters November 21st, 2012 through Open Road Films/FilmDistrict

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    Oh no.

    Oh no.

    I can't think of anything else to say.

    Oh no.

    A 17yo thinks the film kicks ass and that Chris Hemsworth, who I still consider a kid at 28 is "grown up" and its a downner. "but it was sort of a downer to see a grown-up in the middle of the action"

    Oh no.

    This is a steaming turd.
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    Now that AMC is owned by China their fears were validated about making the film against the PLA.

    They need to release it on Blu-ray with both versions (Korean and Chinese as the villains) then let the world decide which version has more merit.

    One day if the PLA reach our shores, American's will remember...they were warned.

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    "steaming turd"

    LMAO

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    The Ridiculous 'Red Dawn' Remake Is Even More Absurd Than You Think

    By Max Fisher

    Aug 13 2012, 11:22 AM ET

    Not just because the forthcoming film portrays a North Korean invasion of America, but because the world and America's place in it have changed so dramatically since the original cult classic.



    In 1984, the year after President Ronald Reagan described the Soviet Union as "an evil empire," the writer and director of Conan the Barbarian unleashed upon America a film that would set an as-yet unmatched height in jingoistic absurdity: Red Dawn. The movie portrayed a surprise Cuban-Soviet invasion of the U.S., and a handful of mujahideen-like Coloradan teenagers who, led by Patrick Swayze and Frances "Baby" Houseman*, bravely resist and -- spoiler alert -- ultimately prevail over the forces of darkness.

    Red Dawn's outlandish plot had just enough of a kernel of realism to take itself seriously as a patriotic action-adventure fantasy ("I have never seen a movie, nor will I in the future, with a crowd as crazy amped up as when I saw Red Dawn in 1984," conservative economist Jim Pethokoukis recalled), yet was also outlandish enough to be enjoyed as a piece of summertime camp. But now Red Dawn 2 is coming, slated for a November 21 release whether we want it or not, and with a premise orders of magnitude even nuttier than the original. The trailer, just released, is above; yes, the North Koreans invade and conquer America.

    The biggest problem with Red Dawn 2, based just on the scant information currently available, is that its premise is positively nutbar, and for reasons far beyond North Korea's poverty and military weakness. Before we get to that, though, there is the trailer itself, which in only two nonsensical minutes manages a number of wild inaccuracies. Of course the movie is inaccurate, you might be thinking, it's an action film that doesn't claim realism. But, beyond the obviously silly premise, the film also plays on a number of fears that are similarly bunk but less obviously so, and makes surprising factual mistakes that suggest the producers haven't looked too closely at, say, the Wikipedia entries of its subjects. Here are a few, if for no other reason than to help Red Dawn 2 viewers sleep a little easier.

    U.S. Central Command is in Tampa and Covers the Middle East: At one point in the trailer, a panicked American warns "they've taken out CENTCOM," which might sound like an important core Pentagon office or military decision-making body. It is, but only for the Middle East. The "central" in U.S. Central Command stand for the center of the world map, for which CENTCOM is responsible. That may be a real buzzkiller of a nitpick, but it gives you a sense of just how seriously Red Dawn 2's producers took their mission that they couldn't be bothered to Google the appropriate U.S. theater command: U.S. PACOM, or Pacific Command.

    An EMP Blast Is Not Going to Destroy the Military: The film adopts a fringe conspiracy theory that has long been pushed by a small, right-wing coalition led by Newt Gingrich: that terrorists or a rogue state could devastate America with an electro-magnetic pulse, or EMP. The idea is that detonating a nuclear weapon way up in the stratosphere would send out an EMP that would fry all of our electronics, from helicopters to coffee makers, easing the way for a foreign invasion. In fact, EMP is untested at best and ineffective at worst; studies suggest it might actually stop as little as five percent of electronics. Even if it did work, America is really big and knocking out our entire lower 48 would require many, many more warheads than North Korea could possibly possess.

    The Days of a 'Pearl Harbor' Surprise Attacks Are Over: And it's not just because the U.S. military and intelligence agencies have covered the globe with a blanket of satellite and electronic surveillance that monitors, among other things, foreign military movements. If a bunch of North Korean troops were to even drive to the nearest airport, we're probably going to know about it. And the U.S. military just isn't as centralized as it used to be. At any given moment, the U.S. has about 100,000 troops afloat and 200,000 on foreign military bases, many of those bases located somewhere between North Korea and the U.S., and all of them made for quick deployment. The Navy alone has six enormous, self-contained fleets floating around the world's oceans, not to mention 11 aircraft carriers. Even if an invading force were able to somehow magically subdue the million-plus active duty military personnel on U.S. soil, you could probably set your watch by the American counter-invasion.

    China Is Not Invading America: OK, China is not actually in the movie, but its script originally had the invasion led by Beijing with help from Pyongyang. The studio decided to drop China as the villain, probably to avoid alienating the lucrative Chinese film market. But the idea that North Korea could do this all alone is so patently silly, and the fact of China's original place in the script is so likely to follow news coverage of Red Dawn 2, that it's almost as viewers are meant to mentally substitute Chinese soldiers for the North Koreans. So it's worth quickly noting why that's almost as unlikely as, say, a land invasion from the Great Maple Menace to our north. China has no incentive to attack America, its most important trade partner and thus the central pillar in the economic growth strategy around which its entire polity is organized, and every incentive not to. Even if China did want to attack, its military isn't nearly strong enough. And even if it were strong enough, some analysts say it is too riddled with internal problems.

    The big problem with Red Dawn 2, maybe even bigger than the holes in its premise and its execution, is that it portrays a world that no longer exists and a category of threat that Americans no longer face. The Soviet threat was real in 1984, though not quite for the reasons portrayed in the original Red Dawn. Moscow controlled tens of thousands of nuclear weapons, a secret biological weapons program, and a military built for war with the West, but not always itself or its grasp of international events, making unintentional global devastation a fractional but terrifying possibility.

    There's little reason to think, looking back, that Soviet tanks would pour across the Bering Strait and through Canada into the Midwest, that continental Europe would unilaterally disarm, or that Cuba had the means or desire to even fuel a thousand airplanes, much less fill them with a crack surprise invasion force and sneak them into each of the lower 48 states. Still, it was the Cold War and it was the Reagan '80s, a time of high American nationalism. More to the point, there was some reality to the threat, however exaggerated, and Red Dawn seemed to both capture and dispel Americans' not wholly misplaced anxieties.

    The Soviet Union and United States had a real beef, one that could have foreseeably led to the sort of worst-case scenario portrayed, if fantastically, in Red Dawn. But that is just not the world that we live in anymore. China and the U.S. don't have the sort of existentially conflicting interests that defined the Cold War. Terrorists or rogue states like North Korea or Iran can threaten to harm the U.S., and in a nightmare scenario might even do so severely, but America today is so militarily dominant, and presides over an international system that so tightly bonds the world's interests with American supremacy, that serious existential threats are largely a thing of the past.

    That's what makes Red Dawn 2 so ridiculous, and so unlikely to resonate in the way that its predecessor did: not that impoverished little North Korea could invade America, but that any country or countries ever could or, more importantly, would. The era of state-based existential threats is largely over for America -- that's the good news -- but the bad news is that the years of jingoistic American resistance films may sadly end with it.


    * - Correction: This post originally referred to Jennifer Grey as "Ferris Bueller's sister." As commenters have pointed out, her role alongside Swayze in Dirty Dancing is clearly the more relevant. We regret putting Baby in a corner.

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    With the Axis feverishly rearming by the day and their useful idiots overtaken America, I guess I'll take nearly anything at this point that resembles a struggle against communism.

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    RoboCop’s New Partner Won’t Be A Spunky Redhead

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    Jose Padilha’s remake of Paul Verhoeven’s 1987 classic RoboCop has gradually pieced together a first rate cast. Joel Kinnaman (of the now defunct AMC police procedural The Killing) plays the eponymous robotic cop, Gary Oldman his creator, Hugh Laurie his arch nemesis, Abbie Cornish his wife, Jackie Earle Haley will train him, Samuel L. Jackson will be a media mogul, and Jay Baruchel is some sort of OmniCorp suit.

    One thing that the cast has been missing thus far is a partner for RoboCop. You may recall in the original that officer Alex Murphy, who later becomes RoboCop after being used for target practice, has a spunky, red-haired, female partner named Anne Lewis (Nancy Allen). Much like Roddy Piper in They Live, she’s fond of chewing bubblegum and kicking ass.

    Padilha’s film is going in a bit of a different direction with the part, however. Heat Vision reports that Michael Kenneth Williams is in negotiations to join RoboCop as Murphy’s partner.


    Michael Kenneth Williams will play Alex Murphy’s partner in RoboCop

    Instead of Allen’s short, feisty smartass, Williams is tall, lanky, and flat out badass. He’s made a name for himself playing tough as hell, but still offbeat characters. His Omar Little, an openly gay gangster who makes a living ripping off drug dealers in HBO’s The Wire, is one of the best characters I’ve ever seen on TV. In Boardwalk Empire he plays prohibition-era bootlegger Chalky White. On NBC sitcom Community, he played an ex-con turned community college biology professor, lending a hard edge to a comedic role.

    If Williams lands this role, it suffices to say that the dynamic between Murphy and his partner will be a drastic change from the original, though the potential banter between Kinnaman and Williams could be great. In Verhoeven’s RoboCop, Murphy and Lewis are new partners, but according to the report the partner in the remake will be “tight with Murphy’s family.” Again, it looks like they’re crafting a different sort of relationship.

    RoboCop is scheduled to begin filming in Toronto in September, aiming for a release next year.

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    Well, I like Chris Hemsworth. Every time I see the opening scene of Star Trek 2009, I get a tear in my eye.

    Maybe this one won't stink as badly as I expect. Ah hell, who am I kidding.
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